Fox: Fair and Balanced

garbagemanlb · 11-15-2006, 11:14 PM

FOX NEWS INTERNAL MEMO: "Be On The Lookout For Any Statements From The Iraqi Insurgents...Thrilled At The Prospect Of A Dem Controlled Congress"... | The Huffington Post

All I have to say is, I am not surprised. If this was CNN, MSNBC, or any other news organization actively digging for biased stories like this, I would expect the people in charge to be fired immediately.

For some reason, I doubt this will happen at Fox.

Thorgrim · 11-15-2006, 11:22 PM

I don't know who takes fox seriously anymore...

i love how they brag about their election ratings being ever so slightly ahead of CNN

Listen, this is what happened: everyone put on CNN for accurate results and calls, they put on Fox to see a bunch of conservatives conduct a funeral for the GOP, even I did that, it was very rewarding

Diamond Cross · 11-15-2006, 11:36 PM

CNN is just as biased as FOX is. Just on the other edge of the spectrum. And no one would get fired for it either.

RMNIXON · 11-15-2006, 11:36 PM

That was written after the election and any such reaction would be a news story. The other networks have never made news about how Europe feels about Bush or the Iraq war have they? Never print or feature negative comments about the administration as news?

Give me a break here guys?

Somebody doth protest too much!

RMNIXON · 11-15-2006, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

CNN is just as biased as FOX is. Just on the other edge of the spectrum. And no one would get fired for it either.

A+ for honesty!

Everbody has a bias! Everybody has political filters. The more objective people are the ones who will admit that!

6SpeedTA95 · 11-15-2006, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I don't know who takes fox seriously anymore...

i love how they brag about their election ratings being ever so slightly ahead of CNN

Listen, this is what happened: everyone put on CNN for accurate results and calls, they put on Fox to see a bunch of conservatives conduct a funeral for the GOP, even I did that, it was very rewarding

did you even turn on Fox once during the elections? It was clearly not a funeral for the GOP, a couple of the guys accidently slipped up and said "we will definately take the house" their election coverage was good as usual and for the most part it was free from bias.

ballz2wallz · 11-15-2006, 11:41 PM

Given that he was correct, and there was mention of this before the elections, I don't see what the big deal is with wanting to break stories.

Thorgrim · 11-16-2006, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

CNN is just as biased as FOX is. Just on the other edge of the spectrum. And no one would get fired for it either.

link to CNN's memos

Dumpy Dooby · 11-16-2006, 01:27 AM

Note that it says EDITORIAL in the upper right.

Christ some people are so fucking stupid. Boy would the world be better if stupidity were painful....

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I don't know who takes fox seriously anymore...

Yeah, it's only the largest news organization in America.

SpicyMcVoodoo · 11-16-2006, 03:34 AM

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

CNN is just as biased as FOX is. Just on the other edge of the spectrum. And no one would get fired for it either.

I disagree with that, but I suppose arguing is pointless, because this is all subjective...we all apparently have a different opinion as to where the center lies. IMO, CNN is slightly left of center, whereas Fox is so far right it's falling off the scale.

JaJae · 11-16-2006, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby

Note that it says EDITORIAL in the upper right.

I think the buck stops there. Good try though by the OP. There's got to be dirt on Fox News out there. Someone will find it.

Thorgrim · 11-16-2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I think the buck stops there. Good try though by the OP. There's got to be dirt on Fox News out there. Someone will find it.

Yeah fox has editorials that instruct the company how they are going to cover stories for the day...maybe it was a gag joke!

Whether it was directed towards the opinion side of the news station or not, it shows an obvious bias commanding voice in what kind of message they want send out...99% of fox is opinion anyway

JaJae · 11-16-2006, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Yeah fox has editorials that instruct the company how they are going to cover stories for the day...maybe it was a gag joke!

Whether it was directed towards the opinion side of the news station or not, it shows an obvious bias commanding voice in what kind of message they want send out...99% of fox is opinion anyway

Considering Moody works for their editorial department... I'd say this is an issue that has to deal with I dunno, say editorials. And maybe the prefix of the memo has something that would lead a reasonable person to believe it has something to do with editorials. It seems rather blatantly obvious that it's a memo for their editorial writers.

Thorgrim · 11-16-2006, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Considering Moody works for their editorial department... I'd say this is an issue that has to deal with I dunno, say editorials. And maybe the prefix of the memo has something that would lead a reasonable person to believe it has something to do with editorials. It seems rather blatantly obvious that it's a memo for their editorial writers.

even say it was (you know having a title doesn't mean it only gets passed to those certain people and they have to have a retina scan to prove they are opinion staffers to see the document)

marching orders that say "insurgents...MUST be thrilled at the prospect of a Dem-controlled Congress"

Also, your editorial argument is hurt by the fact they talk about what they are going to do with news reporter Jim Angle on the subject, and they talk about events far beyond what just the opinion pieces cover...such as focusing their broadcast on Hamas rather than the Democratic win just a day after they won Congress

There is other stuff too: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Cou...o-11-15-06.wmv

You guys talk about the NYTimes as the most bias place ever...but their main story-getters in 2003 were those who sold their soul to the Bush Administration for access and worked the NYTimes frontpage as propaganda for pro-iraq war emssages

More importantly, you think libertarian Tierney or conservative Brooks as editorialists would take liberal marching orders? No, because they are a much more respectable news agency than Fox

NYTimes endorsed Lamont, yet Brooks demonized him and his followers constantly

Even if this was just to editorialists, which it looks like it wasn't it is still the worst news style I have ever seen and the worst evidence of blatant bias

7960 · 11-16-2006, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

CNN is just as biased as FOX is. Just on the other edge of the spectrum. And no one would get fired for it either.

exactly

it's exactly what CNN has been doing for the last 6 years

SpicyMcVoodoo · 11-16-2006, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Considering Moody works for their editorial department... I'd say this is an issue that has to deal with I dunno, say editorials. And maybe the prefix of the memo has something that would lead a reasonable person to believe it has something to do with editorials. It seems rather blatantly obvious that it's a memo for their editorial writers.

Even if it is editorial, what media outlet directs its editorial writers to be anti-democrat? I mean, if you run a blatantly right wing operation, that's fine, but you have to admit it's a bit hypocritical for Fox to call themselves "fair and balanced" when they're directing their editorial staff to say terrorists are happy the dems won. Why don't they just hire good editorial people and let them editorialize however they want?

JaJae · 11-16-2006, 04:21 PM

How many memos have we seen come out of CNN, ABC, CBS, etc doing the same thing, but only for their actual news? Their editorial and opinion shows lean conservative. Their editorial director was giving them the scoop and some ideas to bring up. The memo was addressed to their editorial department.

I'll be the first to admit Fox has a bias, but this involves editorials... where you have to give some slack.

RMNIXON · 11-16-2006, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Considering Moody works for their editorial department... I'd say this is an issue that has to deal with I dunno, say editorials. And maybe the prefix of the memo has something that would lead a reasonable person to believe it has something to do with editorials. It seems rather blatantly obvious that it's a memo for their editorial writers.

Major NON-Story!

RMNIXON · 11-16-2006, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

link to CNN's memos

I can get you a link to CBS News Department Fake Memos they use before an election?

motivez · 11-16-2006, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

Major NON-Story!

Agreed, every reasonable person has known for a long time that Fox is a conservative/white house/gop mouthpiece

It's not surprising that their editorial staff would be on the lookout for things that make Republicans, the White House, etc, look good, while making Liberals, Democrats, etc, look bad.. That's exactly what I'd expect from them.