To My Conservative Brothers and Sisters

tbone · 11-16-2006, 09:55 AM

Read this in another private political forum and it struck an interesting debate on many of the points. Thought I would post it here to see if it strikes to same interesting conversation. I did not write this a man named Teddy apparently wrote it unless he stole it from someone else.

"To My Conservative Brothers and Sisters,

I know you are dismayed and disheartened at the results of last week's election. You're worried that the country is heading toward a very bad place you don't want it to go. Your 12-year Republican Revolution has ended with so much yet to do, so many promises left unfulfilled. You are in a funk, and I understand.

Well, cheer up, my friends! Do not despair. I have good news for you. I,
and the millions of others who are now in charge with our Democratic Congress, have a pledge we would like to make to you, a list of promises that we offer you because we value you as our fellow Americans. You deserve to know what we plan to do with our newfound power -- and, to be specific, what we will do to you and for you.

Thus, here is our Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives:

Dear Conservatives and Republicans,

I, and my fellow signatories, hereby make these promises to you:

1. We will always respect you for your conservative beliefs. We will never, ever, call you "unpatriotic" simply because you disagree with us. In fact, we encourage you to dissent and disagree with us.

2. We will let you marry whomever you want, even when some of us consider your behavior to be "different" or "immoral." Who you marry is none of our business. Love and be in love -- it's a wonderful gift.

3. We will not spend your grandchildren's money on our personal whims or to enrich our friends. It's your checkbook, too, and we will balance it for you.

4. When we soon bring our sons and daughters home from Iraq, we will bring your sons and daughters home, too. They deserve to live. We promise never to send your kids off to war based on either a mistake or a lie.

5. When we make America the last Western democracy to have universal health coverage, and all Americans are able to get help when they fall ill, we promise that you, too, will be able to see a doctor, regardless of your ability to pay. And when stem cell research delivers treatments and cures for diseases that affect you and your loved ones, we'll make sure those advances are available to you and your family, too.

6. Even though you have opposed environmental regulation, when we clean up our air and water, we, the Democratic majority, will let you, too, breathe the cleaner air and drink the purer water.

7. Should a mass murderer ever kill 3,000 people on our soil, we will devote every single resource to tracking him down and bringing him to justice. Immediately. We will protect you.

8. We will never stick our nose in your bedroom or your womb. What you do there as consenting adults is your business. We will continue to count your age from the moment you were born, not the moment you were conceived.

9. We will not take away your hunting guns. If you need an automatic weapon or a handgun to kill a bird or a deer, then you really aren't much of a hunter and you should, perhaps, pick up another sport. We will make our streets and schools as free as we can from these weapons and we will protect your children just as we would protect ours.

10. When we raise the minimum wage, we will pay you -- and your employees -- that new wage, too. When women are finally paid what men make, we will pay conservative women that wage, too.

11. We will respect your religious beliefs, even when you don't put those
beliefs into practice. In fact, we will actively seek to promote your most radical religious beliefs ("Blessed are the poor," "Blessed are the peacemakers," "Love your enemies," "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God," and "Whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me."). We will let people in other countries know that God doesn't just bless America, he blesses everyone. We will discourage religious intolerance and fanaticism -- starting with the fanaticism here at home, thus setting a good example for the rest of the world.

12. We will not tolerate politicians who are corrupt and who are bought and paid for by the rich. We will go after any elected leader who puts him or herself ahead of the people. And we promise you we will go after the corrupt politicians on our side FIRST. If we fail to do this, we need you to call us on it. Simply because we are in power does not give us the right to turn our heads the other way when our party goes astray. Please perform this important duty as the loyal opposition.

I promise all of the above to you because this is your country, too. You
are every bit as American as we are. We are all in this together. We sink or swim as one. Thank you for your years of service to this country and for giving us the opportunity to see if we can make things a bit better for our 300 million fellow Americans -- and for the rest of the
world.

Life is not measured by the number of breathes we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
-George Carlin

Thanks again for reading. "

ballz2wallz · 11-16-2006, 10:03 AM

'Dear conservatives, we'll give you everything you never wanted...up yours!'

lew · 11-16-2006, 10:19 AM

TheScatman · 11-16-2006, 01:57 PM

"Dear Two Parties,

The Framers of the Constitution would be shocked and digusted by the way you have controted their words and destroyed the concept of a limited government run by the people. In other words you are all tyrants, and if this was back in the day, Im pretty sure you would all be hung. Thanks!

Sincerely,

Liberty"

Diesel66 · 11-16-2006, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by TheScatman

"Dear Two Parties,

The Framers of the Constitution would be shocked and digusted by the way you have controted their words and destroyed the concept of a limited government run by the people. In other words you are all tyrants, and if this was back in the day, Im pretty sure you would all be hung. Thanks!

Sincerely,

Liberty"

the framers destroyed the concept of a limited government/inalienable rights before the ink dried on the Constitution.

tbone · 11-16-2006, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by TheScatman

"Dear Two Parties,

The Framers of the Constitution would be shocked and digusted by the way you have controted their words and destroyed the concept of a limited government run by the people. In other words you are all tyrants, and if this was back in the day, Im pretty sure you would all be hung. Thanks!

Sincerely,

Liberty"

Very true.

motivez · 11-16-2006, 04:00 PM

Isn't that Michael Moore's letter?

Stylerod · 11-16-2006, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Isn't that Michael Moore's letter?

Yeah, that he seems to have plagiarized from someone on DU

You guys are getting me all riled up about this Michael Moore business.

Just for a refresher:
(Mine is in the order I originally presented it; Moore's is taken from here and there in his piece.)

Moore: A Liberal's Pledge to Disheartened Conservatives
Me: Dear dismayed conservatives:

Moore: I, and my fellow signatories, hereby make these promises to you:
Me: I hereby make these promises to you.

Moore: Should a mass murderer ever kill 3,000 people on our soil, we will devote every single resource to tracking him down and bringing him to justice. Immediately. We will protect you.
Me: We will protect your lives and livelihoods.

Moore: We will always respect you for your conservative beliefs.
Me: We will listen to and respect your beliefs.

Moore: We will respect your religious beliefs, even when you don't put those beliefs into practice. // We will let you marry whomever you want, even when some of us consider your behavior to be "different" or "immoral."
Me: We will never try to force you to change your religion, sexual orientation, or first language.

Moore: We will never stick our nose in your bedroom or your womb. What you do there as consenting adults is your business. We will continue to count your age from the moment you were born, not the moment you were conceived.
Me: We will do our best to reduce the number of abortions in our country.

Moore: We will not tolerate politicians who are corrupt and who are bought and paid for by the rich.
Me: We will have no tolerance for corruption and cronyism, even in our own party.

Moore: And we promise you we will go after the corrupt politicians on our side FIRST.
Me: ESPECIALLY in our own party.

Moore:We will never, ever, call you "unpatriotic" simply because you disagree with us. In fact, we encourage you to dissent and disagree with us.
Me: We will never tell you that you are unpatriotic. We will never tell you that your opinion doesn't count.

Moore: When we soon bring our sons and daughters home from Iraq, we will bring your sons and daughters home, too. They deserve to live. We promise never to send your kids off to war based on either a mistake or a lie.
Me: We will never waste your lives for power.

Moore: We will go after any elected leader who puts him or herself ahead of the people.
Me: We will hold our leaders to a high ethical standard and when they succumb to lust for power, WE WILL HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.

Moore: If we fail to do this, we need you to call us on it.
Me: If we forget this, please, please, please, remind us.

Moore: You are every bit as American as we are.
Me: We need you to do this. You are America as much as we are. Let's go.

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I know that this will be buried in the archives in a few days but....

Michael Moore's homepage
My blog, with post

Just in case anyone wants to do any comparison. I am really torn as to what to do. Quite frankly, if he were to just say "I saw this list on the Web and thought I'd flesh it out a bit, thanks Witch," that'd finish the whole thing for me... but ... as it is, I'm just... nervous.

Thomas Crown · 11-16-2006, 04:14 PM

I'm not usually so short spoken but...

that was dumb.

motivez · 11-16-2006, 04:17 PM

Wow, did he at least give the guy credit?

Stylerod · 11-16-2006, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Wow, did he at least give the guy credit?

Nope. From the bottom of the quote.

I am really torn as to what to do. Quite frankly, if he were to just say "I saw this list on the Web and thought I'd flesh it out a bit, thanks Witch," that'd finish the whole thing for me... but ... as it is, I'm just... nervous.

motivez · 11-16-2006, 04:25 PM

What a douche. But we already knew that about him.

I actually like the content of parts of the letter though.

tbone · 11-16-2006, 05:46 PM

LOL, so it's Michael Moore's letter or someone from DU? I would like to post in the forums I found this at so "Teddy" doesn't takre credit for it as well.

Stylerod · 11-16-2006, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by tbone

LOL, so it's Michael Moore's letter or someone from DU? I would like to post in the forums I found this at so "Teddy" doesn't takre credit for it as well.

Yep. Check the link in my first post. Someone from DU made it and it seems MM might have "borrowed" the format.

Thomas Crown · 11-17-2006, 11:59 AM

In addition to being a liar and a weasel, MM is now a thief too. Woot.

motivez · 11-18-2006, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Thomas Crown

In addition to being a liar and a weasel, MM is now a thief too. Woot.

Yeah, I'm surprised he thought he could get away with being a plagiarist in these times.. especially when he took the work of someone who was probably bound to visit his website at some point!

I haven't seen any response about this yet from him.