A movie dropped because it offends Christians?

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

This movie wasn't banned either.

at semantics

'Nativity' Booted From Ill. Holiday Fair

The title says enough.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

at semantics

'Nativity' Booted From Ill. Holiday Fair

The title says enough.

Read the story. The movie hasn't been banned. They asked them to drop the studio as a sponsor for a festival. It has nothing to do with banning anything. You know, reading past the title can be quite enlightening.

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

Originally Posted by lew

And don't forget Dogma, Last Temptation of Christ, or a thousand other movies that mock Christianity. But wait, they weren't dropped from anywhere.

That's because the majority of Christians are not offended by those movies. Who do you think went to go see Dogma, Da Vinci Code, etc.? It's mostly Christians. So as to why these movies aren't taken down, it's because while they offend some Christians, there are too many other Christians enjoying them. If there were truly a movie that offended the majority of Christians, I think it would be taken down. Then again, I doubt Hollywood would make a movie that offends the majority of Christians. Such a movie would be a little indie flick no one has heard of.

[lew]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

That's because the majority of Christians are not offended by those movies. Who do you think went to go see Dogma, Da Vinci Code, etc.? It's mostly Christians. So as to why these movies aren't taken down, it's because while they offend some Christians, there are too many other Christians enjoying them. If there were truly a movie that offended the majority of Christians, I think it would be taken down. Then again, I doubt Hollywood would make a movie that offends the majority of Christians. Such a movie would be a little indie flick no one has heard of.

Dogma didn't offend Christians?

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by lew

Dogma didn't offend Christians?

Dogma, Kevin Smith's Sacred Satire, a moview review, by Charles Henderson at GodWeb.org

Smith was right to anticipate some people would object to this film even without the benefit of actually seeing it. At Dogma's US premiere, throngs of protestors attempted to intimidate people entering the theater. As Smith arrived, he tried to engage the protestors in conversation, explaining that he intended to produce a "devout, pro-faith film." But as right-wing protest organizer C. Preston Noell of The American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property later explained, a film so full of slapstick comedy, profanity, and violence could in no way be a work of faith. Dogma was "made by sad, silly people who, in effect, are puppets manipulated by the devil" said Noell. And he pledged that his 200,000 followers would picket theaters across the country wherever Dogma was playing.

According to a publicly available script, the Disney/Miramax produced movie, Dogma, mocks everything we hold sacred—God, the Church, the Mass and Mary’s virginity. It condones what we condemn—murder, obscenity, violence, profanity, drugs, drunkenness and rebellion! -- From TFP press release

Controversy has followed this film since word of its tone and content began circulating on the Internet. Harvey and Bob Weinstein originally produced it for Miramax, their Disney subsidiary. After threats from the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, they then purchased it from Disney for $12 million to spare the parent company from controversy and eventually distributed it via the independent Lions Gate Films.

There were plenty of offended christians.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Dogma, Kevin Smith's Sacred Satire, a moview review, by Charles Henderson at GodWeb.org
There were plenty of offended christians.

I know.

[ballz2wallz]

There are plenty of people that are offended no matter what you do.

This isn't an issue about simply offending people; this is an issue about actually pulling a film that was scheduled to play. I have no idea why we're talking about who was offended. This is a story about a film that was pulled because it MIGHT offend people.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

There are plenty of people that are offended no matter what you do.

This isn't an issue about simply offending people; this is an issue about actually pulling a film that was scheduled to play. I have no idea why we're talking about who was offended. This is a story about a film that was pulled because it MIGHT offend people.

But they did not pull the film in the original post. They dropped them as a sponsor for a festival.

[avsp]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

There are plenty of people that are offended no matter what you do.

This isn't an issue about simply offending people; this is an issue about actually pulling a film that was scheduled to play. I have no idea why we're talking about who was offended. This is a story about a film that was pulled because it MIGHT offend people.

because of the way the dabate was 'framed'?

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

But they did not pull the film in the original post. They dropped them as a sponsor for a festival.

That's even more pathetic.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

That's even more pathetic.

Did you even read the article before you posted this?

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

Originally Posted by lew

Dogma didn't offend Christians?

Read what I wrote:

That's because the majority of Christians are not offended by those movies.

Movie Dogma - Box Office Data, News, Cast Information - The Numbers
Dogma grossed over 30 million in the US alone. Who do you think it was spending 30 million in tickets? Atheists? Hindus? It was mostly Christians, of course. And that's the point.

Maybe I shouldn't have said "the majority" of Christians aren't offended. Maybe it is the majority. But the point is that there are still enough non offended Chrisitans to spend 10's of millions of dollars. Until there aren't, you're not going to see these movies being taken down.

In all reality, Dogma was not that offensive. It was satire. It's wasn't Christ dipped in piss. That some Christians in America found it offensive is not revealing at all. They're offended by most stuff that comes out of Hollywood, whether it's religious in nature or not.

[Diamond Cross]

Don't forget the DaVinci Code.That did offend a lot of Christians, but instead of getting it dropped, they wrote their own books to counter it.