What is the evidence that the media is biased against Israel?

[Nonphixion]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

On September 24, 2003, Belgium's highest court dismissed the war crimes complaints against Ariel Sharon, ruling there was no longer a legal basis for the lawsuit.


From the very same article.

They dismissed one condemnation of their war crimes. What about the 42+ outstanding UN resolutions made to bring about peace in the region that were rejected by Israel and veto'd by the US.

Israel is horribly brutal when dealing with the unarmed, anyone that stands of the way of the conquering ambitions are trampled beneath their boots. They show no concern for humanity in the way that they ruthlessly continue to exterminate the Palestinian population.

[Nonphixion]

Originally Posted by Bob the Goat

It's clear Nonphixion sees the Palestinian /Israeli struggle as a situation in which one side is right, the other wrong. I say killing is killing and simply wrong. Usually when someone thinks they hold the only true perspective on an issue they also believe they have the straightforward resolution to the problem at hand. The question is; Does Nonphixion have a final solution in mind?

That is not correct at all.

The solution is 3 fold;
1. We need to ensure Israeli security, after all of the threats the Israelis have instigated against themselves, there must be a way to restore good relations and keep the nation of Israel safe.
2. We need to ensure Palestinian Liberty, the population being locked into their homes from 177 days each year is nothing short of oppression. As well as being denied access to use their own roads, even in emergency life-threatening hospital situations, people and ambulances are stopped by armed Israeli IDF soldiers, and denied freedom of movement within their own lands.
3. We need an open and honest discussion about the illegal occupation of the Palestinian people's land.

[Thorgrim]

LOL if anyone points out Israel doing something bad, its terrorist propaganda

then you post a video of people editing footage to put in crosshairs and everything...and I guess thats not propaganda

How many Israelis have been killed by suicide bombers in the past 2 years? Considering this is what you call a daily fact of life

[Bob the Goat]

Originally Posted by Nonphixion

That is not correct at all.

The solution is 3 fold;
1. We need to ensure Israeli security, after all of the threats the Israelis have instigated against themselves, there must be a way to restore good relations and keep the nation of Israel safe.
2. We need to ensure Palestinian Liberty, the population being locked into their homes from 177 days each year is nothing short of oppression. As well as being denied access to use their own roads, even in emergency life-threatening hospital situations, people and ambulances are stopped by armed Israeli IDF soldiers, and denied freedom of movement within their own lands.
3. We need an open and honest discussion about the illegal occupation of the Palestinian people's land.

Very good and reasonable Nonphixion. Now, How do we ensure Israeli security in order that Palestinian national liberty and Palestinian freedom of movement are also permanently in place?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Bob the Goat

Very good and reasonable Nonphixion. Now, How do we ensure Israeli security in order that Palestinian national liberty and Palestinian freedom of movement are also permanently in place?

They have no nation. They're too caught up on destroying Israel and killing Israelis for the past few decades to ever start up an actual nation. The way to ensure Palestinian freedom and liberty is to get them to leave Israel in peace. Once that happens the conflict will end. Israel is the retaliator, Palestine is the aggressor. If Israel stops attacks, conflict will continue. If Palestine stops attacks and stops being a threat to Israel, there will be peace.

[Bob the Goat]

Originally Posted by Bob the Goat

Very good and reasonable Nonphixion. Now, How do we ensure Israeli security in order that Palestinian national liberty and Palestinian freedom of movement are also permanently in place?

Nonphixion, When in your mind did the "illegal occupation of Palestinian lands" begin? What historic event and/or timeframe defines "Palestinian lands" ?

Remember there have been both jewish and palestinian settlements and shifting governances in the specific geographical region referred to for three thousand years.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Bob the Goat

Nonphixion, When in your mind did the "illegal occupation of Palestinian lands" begin? What historic event and/or timeframe defines "Palestinian lands" ?

I assume after the people who had ownership of the land gave it to the Jews. In any event of how the Jews got there, they are now there and settled for quite some time. The end result of this conflict for Israel is peace. The end result for Palestine is total genocide of the Jews or pushing Israel out into the sea. Enough is enough already.

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

The fact that the average american has no clue why palestinians would want to kill israelis is evidence of bias for israel. Basically, the palestinian side of the story is never even told in us media, much less told in a biased way.

[Diamond Cross]

Originally Posted by Nonphixion

They dismissed one condemnation of their war crimes. What about the 42+ outstanding UN resolutions made to bring about peace in the region that were rejected by Israel and veto'd by the US.

Israel is horribly brutal when dealing with the unarmed, anyone that stands of the way of the conquering ambitions are trampled beneath their boots. They show no concern for humanity in the way that they ruthlessly continue to exterminate the Palestinian population.

They were rejectected because they were completely unwarranted. Israel is not the brutal conquerer that it is made out to be. Israel never started any of those conflicts.

What about giving resolutions to Lebanon for kidnapping soldiers off of Israeli soil, a violation of geneva conventions? What about giving Jordan and other governments resolutions for their sponsoring of terrorists acts against Israel that specifically target Israeli civillians?

There are none. The United Nations has been highly criticised for being biased against Israel because it will not lift a finger to help Israel out against these terrorists.

[Diamond Cross]

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

The fact that the average american has no clue why palestinians would want to kill israelis is evidence of bias for israel. Basically, the palestinian side of the story is never even told in us media, much less told in a biased way.

Baloney.

The Palestinian side is told by showing how Israel acts, but because of the media bias against Israel people comed up with crap like "proportinate response."

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

Baloney.

The Palestinian side is told by showing how Israel acts, but because of the media bias against Israel people comed up with crap like "proportinate response."

The day to day oppression and abuses by Israeli troops are not given the type of vivid coverage that Israelis get.

How many times have you heard about an Israeli missile assassination that killed a bunch of kids or innocents in the process? How many times have you actually seen detailed reporting afterwards telling the stories of those who were killed, the damage to the buildings, businesses and people nearby, etc?

You never hear about any of this stuff. It's just, "Palestinian terrorst Abu Abu was killed today by an Israeli rocket...12 civilians were also killed," and the scene changes.

Meanwhile, one rocket explodes in Israel, and you get 15 minutes of vivid scenery, background on all the victims, detailed survey of damage to buildigns, interviews with the victim's family, etc...everything to personalize it and make people relate to it.

I've never seen that level of personalization and detail that Israel enjoys in the mainstream media applied to the other side, and when I finally do see it in the independent media, it really gives me a different perspective.

[Diamond Cross]

I have, and quite often. BAsically, the press only reports the casualties caused by Israelis, and not the atrocities done by Palestinians. Nor does the media tend to examine the root cause of the conflicts: the sheer hatred of Israel's existence.

Hamas refuses to acknowledge the existence of Israel.

Geography and other sources do not show the existence of Israel.

So on and so forth.

When Israel was formed the entire Middle East rose to attempt to destroy Israel and failed to do so. Since then all wars that have been launched have been aimed with the destruction of Israel in mind.