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Old 12-01-2006, 03:35 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
From what I've seen, the polls where she is not within the MoE are polls that don't include Hillary Rodham Clinton

And if you talk to so many female voters that hate her, why is she pulling 40%+ as just Clinton? She actually pulled 51% over McCain in a CNN poll with Hillary Rodhman Clinton

What's the difference between Hillary Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton.
 
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Old 12-01-2006, 03:50 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
What's the difference between Hillary Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton.
It's a psychological thing

People See...Clinton, Hillary

They think "oh, Bills wife"

People see Hillary Rodham Clinton they think about how she started at Hillary Rodham, went through the faults of 1993 and then her husband cheating on her public, picked herself, won a Senate seat, and then moved herself to be a powerful politician

Quite a good "recovery" story, and shes capable
 
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Old 12-01-2006, 03:59 PM   #23
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Here's hoping for Obama to run.
 
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:12 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post
Here's hoping for Obama to run.
Another sure win for Republicans.

All one will have to do is say 'uh, he's been doing politics for how long now?' and everyone will STFU
 
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:28 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Another sure win for Republicans.

All one will have to do is say 'uh, he's been doing politics for how long now?' and everyone will STFU
Considering there are no Republican frontrunners with name recognition, it isn't as unlikely as you'd think.

McCain and Guliani won't get the nod, Romney is also disliked by numerous conservatives for his 'wish-washy' position on abortion, not to mention him being a mormon and from the liberal New England.

No, I think the Democrats are in a good position right now for '08.
 
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:37 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
I've spoken to several female voters. Females HATE Hillary.

Democrats have a much better chance at winning with Obama than they do with Hillary.
They know the meaning of B-I-T-C-H

And even I like Obama. Don't agree with him on many issues, but understand his appeal to voters.

Hillary tries to be the cookie baking mom in public, but is a stuck up liberal bitch in private. At first She was in charge of an easy to manipulate Bill Clinton (1992-94). She hates Dick Morris even though he saved the Clinton presidency by moving him to the center against her wishes after the 1994 historical congressional Republican victory! Unlike the current second midterm victory which is almost a sure bet by the out of power party.

Women understand her better than men which is why she has poll problems even with liberal Democrats. She is the candidate for Dem Party cheerleaders only, not the party voters. 2008 will be a real hoot for Republicans watching the Dems try to save face against the inevitable challege to the anointed Queen!
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:44 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post

No, I think the Democrats are in a good position right now for '08.

Quite the reverse. It is December 2006. The Republicans have an open field. It is the Dems who have a cat fight waiting to happen. Hillary and her party machinery against any challenge. Bill Clinton came out of little Arkansaw from knowhere because of the open field, not as a challege to the party royalty! So did Carter in 1976. So did JFK in 1960!


 
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Old 12-01-2006, 05:46 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Quite the reverse. It is December 2006. The Republicans have an open field. It is the Dems who have a cat fight waiting to happen. Hillary and her party machinery against any challenge. Bill Clinton came out of little Arkansaw from knowhere because of the open field, not as a challege to the party royalty! So did Carter in 1976. So did JFK in 1960!



Name recognition. Democrats have it, Republicans don't.
 
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Old 12-01-2006, 06:20 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by garbagemanlb View Post
Name recognition. Democrats have it, Republicans don't.

2006 bud, don't mean a thing. You think JFK was anybody but a Jr. Senator before he got the nomination? Don't even mention Carter or Clinton! You don't seem to consider your own party victories since Roosevelt!
 
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