Iraq Is Under American Occupation

[Diamond Cross]

President Bush said in this article:

My Way News - Panel Reaches Deal on U.S. Iraq Policy

That he would not withdraw American troops until the mission is done.

Yet the Iraqi government has officially asked President Bush to withdraw his troops and holds America responsible for the violence erupting in Iraq.

Well this comes as no surprise since he does not value the opinions of American citizens, why should he value the opinion of the Iraqi government, the one he helped to build? The American people want the troops out, why is he not listening to them? He did not listen to their voices in his support of Amnesty for illegal immigrants when the majority of Americans said they did not support it.

President Bush sir, if you keep American troops there in Iraq against their own government's wishes, how then does that make you any different that the terrorists you pretend to fight? You've turned the troops into a true occupying force when you do not heed the wishes of the government you helped to install., or do you think their opinion is invalid because the people elected were not the ones you wanted to serve? Or do you see the election process as a failure because of that? Is that why you refuse to listen and respect the wishes of the Iraqi government and not only keep troops but to add even more?

You have made a mess of Iraq good sir and refuse to take responsibility for your actions. How is the world supposed to respect a man who does not take responsibility for his actions while demanding like a little child having a tantrum that the world respects you.

The world does not respect a man who does not follow his own standards he wishes to impose on the world. The world will eventually bite back.

[thatguyoverthere]

Well said. I wish Bush could respond to those questions.

Personally, I loathe the idea of getting out before we've stabilzed the country, but getting out seems to the be the least worst option of the very few bad options available. I'm so pissed at the people who started the Iraq war but didn't know how to win it.

But you're right, the Iraqi government (that we helped set up) now says they want us out, it doesn't make sense for us to ignore their wishes.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by thatguyoverthere

Well said. I wish Bush could respond to those questions.

Personally, I loathe the idea of getting out before we've stabilzed the country, but getting out seems to the be the least worst option of the very few bad options available. I'm so pissed at the people who started the Iraq war but didn't know how to win it.

But you're right, the Iraqi government (that we helped set up) now says they want us out, it doesn't make sense for us to ignore their wishes.

It all comes down to one man and his advisors, who refuse to lose face by making the right decision.

[avsp]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

[... snip] Yet the Iraqi government has officially asked President Bush to withdraw his troops and holds America responsible for the violence erupting in Iraq. [snip ...]

cite please

[SpicyMcVoodoo]

Do the majority of Iraqi people want Americans gone?

Has the government of Iraq asked the Americans to leave?

If the answer is "yes" to either question, we're occupying the country.

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by avsp

cite please

I think the author is interpreting this out of context quote:


Bush said Tuesday he would not withdraw American forces "until the mission is complete."

?

The only leader I hear talking about a pullout would be the President of Iran not Iraq.

[RMNIXON]

Today:


``I know there's a lot of speculation that these reports in Washington mean there's going to be some kind of graceful exit out of Iraq,'' Bush said. ``We're going to stay in Iraq to get the job done so long as the government wants us there.''

Bloomberg.com: Worldwide

[Diamond Cross]

Originally Posted by avsp

cite please

See my thread "Coalition Forces May Be out Sooner Than You Think".

[Diamond Cross]

Bomb kills 35 as Iraq presses US to withdraw

From Ned Parker in Baghdad
Dated November 13th, 2006


NI_MPU('middle');A DOUBLE suicide bombing outside a Baghdad police base killed 35 people yesterday as a Shia MP revealed that the Iraqi Government had started to put pressure on United States forces to leave the capital.

“The Government wants US troops to withdraw from Baghdad,” said Haidar al-Abadi, who is one of the Prime Minister’s inner circle.

Mr al-Abadi said that US officials had in preliminary discussions been reluctant to leave the city because they were concerned that it would open the way for Shia militants to attack the Baghdad Sunni minority.

Iraq has been embroiled in sectarian war since February, when Sunni extremists blew up a sacred Shia shrine in Samarra, north of Baghdad, and Shia militias, many of them with links to the Government, decided to fight back.

Mr al-Abadi said that Iraq had proposed the creation of mixed Sunni-Shia battalions for Baghdad, but conceded that it would take time.

He gave warning that the security arrangements for Baghdad had to change:

“The terrorists know the city is divided among the Iraqi Army, police and the US. We can’t carry on the way things are. Right now, Baghdad is like hell.”

Asked to confirm that negotiations over Baghdad were under way, Muwaffak al-Rubaie, the Iraqi national security adviser, said: “The Government . . . is engaged through a newly formed USIraqi security committee with the multinational forces in considering the transfer of security responsibilities.”

President Bush and Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi Prime Minister, formed a joint group in late October to work toward transferring control of Iraq’s security from the US military to the Iraqi Government.

Speeding up America’s transfer of security responsibilities to Iraq will be enshrined in the country’s letter to the UN Security Council, which will request a one-year extension for US-led forces to stay in Iraq.

It lays out the goal of the multi-national forces to hand over security responsibility for more provinces to the Government in 2007, Hoshyar Zebari, Foreign Minister, told The Times.

Outside observers worry that the Shia-led Government’s drive to speed up the transfer of security responsibilities stems from its wish to consolidate its power over the Sunnis.

Two bombers blew themselves up yesterday beside a line of potential police recruits outside a police base in southern Baghdad, killing 35. In other deaths, 50 bodies were found in Baqouba, north of Baghdad, and 25 more found scattered across the capital.

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