Obama sack riders, please explain what I'm missing

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

Democrats have already called Condi all kinds of racist names including a traitor to her own race.

link?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

link?

condi traitor to her race - Google Search

[motivez]

Someone who happens to be a Democrat saying that doesn't mean Democrats can be used like it's a party wide sponsored thing IMO.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by motivez

Someone who happens to be a Democrat saying that doesn't mean Democrats can be used like it's a party wide sponsored thing IMO.

He didn't say Democratic politicians. Just Democrats in general. Which is true. This is the party that "blackfaced" Lieberman, ran a racial campaign against Steele and constantly poked jabs at Condi and Powell on the basis of being a black Republican. The actual politicians aren't doing it, but in many cases their campaign workers and in most cases the Democratic pundits are. They aren't elected officials, but it's very similar to people like Coulter calling greiving wives harpies and Coulter/Ingrahm spewing their insensitivity towards Muslims. Both are noteworthy, but can't exactly pin it on the party leaders since they aren't the ones directly partaking in it. They are, however, in a way condoning it by not speaking out against it.

It would be nice to see a black politician like Obama stand up to them and tell them to knock it off.

[motivez]

So if I go out and find a few Republicans who are racist, then I can go around and say "Not all Republicans are racist, just Republicans in general." and be technically correct by the standard you're setting.

I don't buy that for a second. Certain Steele things were shameful but hardly endorsed by any significant number of Democrats.

"blackfaced" Lieberman? Don't even know what you're talking about.

I've never seen the Democratic establishment take shots at Rice or Powell based on the fact that they're black, and in fact most Democrats I know really respect Powell.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by motivez

So if I go out and find a few Republicans who are racist, then I can go around and say "Not all Republicans are racist, just Republicans in general." and be technically correct by the standard you're setting.

I don't buy that for a second. Certain Steele things were shameful but hardly endorsed by any significant number of Democrats.

"blackfaced" Lieberman? Don't even know what you're talking about.

I've never seen the Democratic establishment take shots at Rice or Powell based on the fact that they're black, and in fact most Democrats I know really respect Powell.

It's not just a few. If there was an onslaught of Republicans calling Obama a "house nigga" or the like then yes you could say "Obama has been degraded racially by Republicans." Nobody is saying "Democrats are racist in general." All he said was

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

Democrats have already called Condi all kinds of racist names including a traitor to her own race.

That's a true statement in my book considering many Democrats have called her all kinds of racist names as well as being a traitor just as many Republicans have made very insensitive and racist comments about Muslims.

If it were a few isolated incidents I could see how a valid argument could be reached, but Condi has suffered from the ethnic politics for a while now from the pundits and blogosphere.

Regarding the Lieberman tangent...
lieberman blackface - Google Image Search
Some of these blackface images were are thought to have been distributed by Lamont campaign workers. Much like the Steele campaigners made Orea jokes to the media, admitted to eating Oreos before debates for racist reasons and threw Oreos at Steele. Much like Steele was attacked racially during the 06 campaign, Rice and Powell were attacked racially during their term with Bush by pundits, blogs, professional cartoonists like Ted Rall, etc.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by motivez

So if I go out and find a few Republicans who are racist, then I can go around and say "Not all Republicans are racist, just Republicans in general." and be technically correct by the standard you're setting.

I don't buy that for a second. Certain Steele things were shameful but hardly endorsed by any significant number of Democrats.

"blackfaced" Lieberman? Don't even know what you're talking about.

I've never seen the Democratic establishment take shots at Rice or Powell based on the fact that they're black, and in fact most Democrats I know really respect Powell.

This blaming all democrats (and saying "democrats" like that does does denote the leadership) is bullshit.

As far as Steele goes, most of the time race was even brought up it was by him.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Regarding the Lieberman tangent...
lieberman blackface - Google Image Search
Some of these blackface images were are thought to have been distributed by Lamont campaign workers.

Really? They are "thought to have been"? Just like how people thought Lamonts people hacked his website?

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

As far as Steele goes, most of the time race was even brought up it was by him.

So that makes it ok for the Lamont camaign to use racism against him? What difference does it make? I think I'm missing your point.

And nobody said "all Democrats." I didn't pick up that he was calling all Democrats racist, it seems he was referring to the ones who used racist terms and even then he didn't call them racist, just stated that they had used racist terms.

[motivez]

Well, seems like a generalized statement without much backing. I don't see any organized effort by "Democrats", just individuals who perhaps have that as another attribute.

Never heard of the blackface thing, but unless there's proof of where they came from there's no reason to assume it's the Lamont campaign endorsed or that any significant number of Democrats support racial stuff like that

[Diamond Cross]

Independent Women's Forum: IWF Denounces Racist Depictions of Dr. Condoleezza Rice in Popular Editorial Cartoons

Just a few examples of racist comments by Democrats towards her, even if an older article.

[Diamond Cross]

By Michelle Malkin:

Michelle Malkin: THE BUCK-NAKED BIGOTRY OF TED RALL

If

[Diamond Cross]

By Michelle Malkin:

Michelle Malkin: THE BUCK-NAKED BIGOTRY OF TED RALL

If older, but still relevant.

Democrats do get away with racism easier than Republicans.

[thatguyoverthere]

Maybe these Democrats who you accuse of racism are just trying to demonstrate against political correctness? If so, I think y'all would be cheering them on.

We all know who on this forum knee-jerk defended Michael Richards without even seeing the video first, so being lectured about racism and hypocracy by those same posters doesn't hold a lot of water. Sorry.

Regarding Condi: It's wrong to dislike her because she's Black or because she's a woman. I don't dislike her because of those reasons. I dislike her because she was the National Security Advisor during the largest national security breach in history!

Regarding Obama: He does have a truck load of charisma. I do think he's too inexperienced to be President, but I also think that we do need a leader who will actually try and bring us together instead of trying to divide us further.

To me, the most striking thing he ever said is hidden in the speech quoted above. It needed to be said, and America would be a better place if we had a leader who actually believed the following statement:

Originally Posted by Barrack Obama

The pundits like to slice-and-dice our country into Red States and Blue States; Red States for Republicans, Blue States for Democrats. But I've got news for them, too.

We worship an awesome God in the Blue States, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the Red States.

[Diamond Cross]

That statement makes no sense at all.

They're calling Condi racist names in order demonstrate against political correctness?

What political correctness?

Or maybe she was hired only for affirmative action? That kind of political correctness and saying she has no credibility because of affirmative action which is a Democrat program? And racist to boot?

That makes no sense what so ever.

No. Racism should be wrong no matter who does it, white black, liberal, conservative.

But because it's a great political tool it becomes a favorite tactic to use because like being accused of pedophilia, it automatically makes one look and feel guilty and puts them on the defensive, regardless of what the evidence is, and because of victimhood, only certain kinds of people can be racist.

If that's not hypocracy, then there is no such thing as hypocracy.

And a lot of double standards.

[ballz2wallz]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I guess if he has charisma, that's good enough for me. He's a decent speaker, carries himself well and is scandal free.

It doesn't matter what he stands for, he's a good guy!

Funny, isn't that how Hitler got voted into office?

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

It doesn't matter what he stands for, he's a good guy!

Funny, isn't that how Hitler got voted into office?

Right. All the Republicans were voted in for "what they stood for" and they are total and complete incompetent, corrupt imbeciles. Is that what you prefer I vote for? His message is just as complete as anyone elses. What he stands for is clear to me...because I am not looking for shit to snipe him about.

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by motivez

So if I go out and find a few Republicans who are racist, then I can go around and say "Not all Republicans are racist, just Republicans in general." and be technically correct by the standard you're setting.

I don't buy that for a second. Certain Steele things were shameful but hardly endorsed by any significant number of Democrats.

I've never seen the Democratic establishment take shots at Rice or Powell based on the fact that they're black, and in fact most Democrats I know really respect Powell.

Motivez: I don't find a "significant number of Democrats" or "party friendly" media speaking out against it either! There is far too much race politics in both parties and it is all ugly!

[RMNIXON]

“You think the Republican National Committee could get this many people of color in a single room?,” Dean asked to laughter. “Only if they had the hotel staff in here.”


"....state leaders need to promote more black candidates in the future so we do not have another Michael Steele problem."


- Howard Dean, Democrat Party Chairman


Michael Steele is a problem? So much for diversity? Oh, we need only Democrat party diversity.