Dems Plans for AFTER the war?

Lego Politics · 08-01-2006, 07:16 PM

All I hear is the Democrats playing off "bring our troops home!" as a campaign slogan. But I heard Steven Colbert last night have an interesting point...what about AFTER the war is over? What are the democrats' plans then? I'm curious, because at the moment I have heard nothing about plans besides troop reductions in Iraq. Does anybody know by any chance what the Dems are planning for this country once the troops are home?

ballz2wallz · 08-01-2006, 07:17 PM

if the dems don't know, how would we know?

Thorgrim · 08-01-2006, 07:18 PM

Uh...have americans celebrate their birthdays instead of their funerals?

SoFlaJDM · 08-01-2006, 07:19 PM

the party in power should have a plan too, right?

Ardentfrost · 08-01-2006, 07:20 PM

shh... it's a secret

Lego Politics · 08-01-2006, 07:20 PM

I'm not saying the republicans have a great plan either. Personally I HATE political parties and the partisanship that follows it. I'm just curious about the Democrats plans, because atm all they can talk about is ending the war, and that's not gonna go on forever.

ballz2wallz · 08-01-2006, 07:21 PM

i don't think anyone knows, lego

i suspect the republicans will continue dealing with the issues they are dealing with now. considering bush has had quite a hectic time in presidency, i doubt it's gonna ease up anytime soon.

Thorgrim · 08-01-2006, 07:22 PM

I just told you what the main achievement of the plan is...

What else do you want? Something else? I'm very active in democratic circles so ask me

Ardentfrost · 08-01-2006, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I just told you what the main achievement of the plan is...

What else do you want? Something else? I'm very active in democratic circles so ask me

active in democratic circle jerks?

j/k

Lego Politics · 08-01-2006, 07:26 PM

What do the democrats, if they take back congress and/or the presidency, plan for the Economy? Illegal immigration? Job Exportation? etc...Remember I am in no way making fun of the democrats I really am just curious. I really hate political parties period and feel this country would be better off without them. I vote whichever way I please...which at times tends to be conservative....and other times a bit more conservative

. But if I felt the democrats honestly had a good, well thought out plan that could be implemented and sounded good, I'd vote democratic. I just hate the "death to religion!" and "America Sucks!" types.

SoFlaJDM · 08-01-2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

i don't think anyone knows, lego

i suspect the republicans will continue dealing with the issues they are dealing with now. considering bush has had quite a hectic time in presidency, i doubt it's gonna ease up anytime soon.

back to gay marriage and social security it is then

Ardentfrost · 08-01-2006, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

back to gay marriage and social security it is then

lol

Thorgrim · 08-01-2006, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Lego Politics

What do the democrats, if they take back congress and/or the presidency, plan for the Economy? Illegal immigration? Job Exportation? etc...Remember I am in no way making fun of the democrats I really am just curious. I really hate political parties period and feel this country would be better off without them. I vote whichever way I please...which at times tends to be conservative....and other times a bit more conservative . But if I felt the democrats honestly had a good, well thought out plan that could be implemented and sounded good, I'd vote democratic. I just hate the "death to religion!" and "America Sucks!" types.

plan for the Economy?

Making our economy more green saves businesses money, they have entire green buildings in New York that have saved millions, Texas Instruments has saved hundreds of millions by going green, give more breaks to businesses to go green across the country, help their research and development

Also, many businesses suffer from dealing with healthcare, with a government assisted program, businesses save billions

All of this leads to more money into the economy which is more jobs and a better America

Illegal Immigration? See the Senate Bill that got passed

Job Exportation? Stay at the head of the curve in technology, if we make our kids the smartest in the world, we'll never fall that behind, and job retraining programs so that those factory workers have a chance to become something else

That's just the beginning

Ardentfrost · 08-01-2006, 07:51 PM

wait, if going green saves businesses money, why would you give more incentive for companies to do it?

Thorgrim · 08-01-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

wait, if going green saves businesses money, why would you give more incentive for companies to do it?

Because their aren't enough investors to help ALL businesses try and go green

Sometimes the savings aren't super-significant, and take years to get the benefits

That's what the government is for, helping businesses when the long-term plans just aren't feasible at the time

Think NASA

and don't argue with me about how the magical private sector could do all this if we cut all taxes or something, im just presenting the plan that is supposedly not there, i am not here to defend every singe democratic idea

Ardentfrost · 08-01-2006, 08:00 PM

If the CF benefits are minimal, then don't use that as a good thing about it. Just say that you want more buildings green to save the environment or whatever.

Plus I disagree with you about that being the government's job, but I know that's just because you and I have different views of what the purpose of the government is

Thorgrim · 08-01-2006, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

If the CF benefits are minimal, then don't use that as a good thing about it. Just say that you want more buildings green to save the environment or whatever.

Plus I disagree with you about that being the government's job, but I know that's just because you and I have different views of what the purpose of the government is

Texas Instruments saved hundreds of millions, and saving money is saving money

Ardentfrost · 08-01-2006, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Texas Instruments saved hundreds of millions, and saving money is saving money

Great, if they can save money, they should certainly do it!

I still don't see why the government should get involved

I actually work in a Green Building

Thorgrim · 08-01-2006, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Ardentfrost

I still don't see why the government should get involved

Because Democrats believe it will help the economy FASTER

and whatever you want to say, its their belief and their plan

Ardentfrost · 08-01-2006, 08:13 PM

Hey man, if there was a size associated with being a democrat, you'd be the biggest one I've ever talked to... so I'm merely seeing why they think things through you.

Pushing more on the actual subject: Taking money from the economy to help (or make?) people do something that they may or may not do on their own is good for the economy?

I mean, seems to me the immediate result would be hurting the economy, and the eventual result would be a helping... whereas leaving well-enough alone would cause no immediate harm and would still have eventual good. Or so it seems