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Scrum · 08-02-2006, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by archangel003

Well, I asked you what they were supposed to do.

Still waiting.

I would vote for them to stop crying about terrorist attacks if they are going to knowingly bomb civilians.

archangel003 · 08-02-2006, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

I would vote for them to stop crying about terrorist attacks if they are going to knowingly bomb civilians.

They wouldn't be bombing civilians if Hezbollah didn't shield themselves with them.

That's somehow Israel's fault?

Scrum · 08-02-2006, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by archangel003

They wouldn't be bombing civilians if Hezbollah didn't shield themselves with them.

That's somehow Israel's fault?

Yes. They are dropping the bombs. They are killing civilians and they know it. Now when their civilians are targeted they have no right to complain. It's not just all about intent here.

thomez · 08-02-2006, 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

I would vote for them to stop crying about terrorist attacks if they are going to knowingly bomb civilians.

which came first, the chicken or the egg?

archangel003 · 08-02-2006, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Yes. They are dropping the bombs. They are killing civilians and they know it. Now when their civilians are targeted they have no right to complain. It's not just all about intent here.

So how do you suggest Israel destroy the missiles? Surely if you're putting up all this opposition, you have better way to dismantle Hezbollah.

Scrum · 08-02-2006, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by thomez

which came first, the chicken or the egg?

That's the core of the problem.

Thorgrim · 08-02-2006, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by thomez

which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Israel stole Palestine

Easy question

BTW to others, this isn't a simple case of "oops we dropped a bomb here" its a campaign to drive the Shia north, this is called ethnic cleansing, it is a war crime, and they bombed the UN compound to push the UN out so they could claim there was chaos and they had to take the UN's place

We can no less be friends with militaristic Israelis that commit war crimes than we can make bin Laden an honorary citizen

Scrum · 08-02-2006, 01:56 AM

Originally Posted by archangel003

So how do you suggest Israel destroy the missiles? Surely if you're putting up all this opposition, you have better way to dismantle Hezbollah.

They need to do what they need to do. Just understand that this will end nothing.

archangel003 · 08-02-2006, 02:00 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Israel stole Palestine

Easy question

BTW to others, this isn't a simple case of "oops we dropped a bomb here" its a campaign to drive the Shia north, this is called ethnic cleansing, it is a war crime, and they bombed the UN compound to push the UN out so they could claim there was chaos and they had to take the UN's place

We can no less be friends with militaristic Israelis that commit war crimes than we can make bin Laden an honorary citizen

Trollin trollin trollin.

Under 1000 civilians in just over two weeks is ethnic cleansing?

Please.

What about the 15,000 Jews that Syria carpet bombed?

Oh, right, that's not ethnic cleansing to you because that's the Arabs rightful land.

Last time I checked, a genocide usually dosen't result in the population tripling.

Thorgrim · 08-02-2006, 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by archangel003

Trollin trollin trollin.

Under 1000 civilians in just over two weeks is ethnic cleansing? Please.

What about the 15,000 Jews that Syria carpet bombed?

Oh, right, that's not ethnic cleansing to you because that's the Arabs rightful land.

Last time I checked, a genocide usually dosen't result in the population tripling.

Look up the definition of "ethnic cleansing" then get back to me, thanks

archangel003 · 08-02-2006, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Look up the definition of "ethnic cleansing" then get back to me, thanks

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Thorgrim · 08-02-2006, 02:22 AM

Originally Posted by archangel003

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Israel wants to send a strong message to all its enemies, especially Iran, that the consequences of attacking the Jewish state will be unbearable.

But mounting civilian casualties and the displacement of hundreds of thousands of Lebanese could limit the amount of time Israel has to achieve its goals, as international tolerance for the bloodshed and destruction runs out.

FOXNews.com - Israel to Lebanese Living on Border: Get Out, Now - The Mideast

One hope the Israeli hawks appear to entertain is that they can permanently depopulate strips Lebanon south of the Litani river. Since most Shiites vote Hizbullah and offer political support and cover to it, fewer people means fewer assets for the party-militia. This project would require the total destruction of large numbers of villages and the permanent displacement of their inhabitants north to Beirut.

That is why the massacre at Qana occurred. The Israelis had bombed Qana 80 times. They were destroying all of its buildings. Therefore, of course, they destroyed the building where dozens of children and families were hiding. This tactic is both collective punishment and ethnic cleansing all at once. It is not only a matter, as the Israelis claim, of hitting Hizbullah rocket launchers. They are destroying all of the buildings.

Dr. Cole, Prof at U of Mich of the Modern Middle East

^^^
You lose, and gnight

lew · 08-02-2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by archangel003

Under 1000 civilians in just over two weeks is ethnic cleansing? Please.

Israel is a terrorist state.

Just like 99% of the other governments in the middle east.

It is sad and unfortunate that all of these innocents keep dying, whether they be in Iraq, Israel, Lebanon, or elsewhere.

thomez · 08-02-2006, 12:08 PM

Israel had 190 more rockets lobbed into their nation again yesterday, those guys must really want a cease fire

kinggovernor · 08-02-2006, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Israel stole Palestine

from whom?

archangel003 · 08-02-2006, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

from whom?

Britain

ballz2wallz · 08-02-2006, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by archangel003

Britain

kinggovernor · 08-02-2006, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by archangel003

Britain

that is my understanding

motivez · 08-02-2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by thomez

Israel had 190 more rockets lobbed into their nation again yesterday, those guys must really want a cease fire

Yeah, and how many troops entered Lebanon?

motivez · 08-02-2006, 06:33 PM

If a foreign nation came in here and told us that we had to give up a third of what we considered 'our' country to Native American tribes, I'm quite sure many of you would feel no differently about the situation than most Arabs do about Israel and Palestine.