Is America ready for a female or minority president?

ballz2wallz · 12-17-2006, 09:21 AM

It seems the two best prospects are either female or black. Not that I have anything wrong with that, but I wonder if the country, or even the world for that matter, is ready for either of them to be the leader of the free world?

Personally, I have a hunch that a typical white male will also be in the running, and the Democratic party will side with him heavily. We'll have to see though, cause I have no idea who that might be at this point.

kinggovernor · 12-17-2006, 09:30 AM

I hate this question, we are ready for anything. To ask this question gives more credence to racist views.

motivez · 12-17-2006, 12:07 PM

I kinda agree with king. I think it's time we stop wondering whether or not we're "ready" and move beyond race / gender as a factor.

Someones capability is not hindered by either factor IMO

Freetos · 12-17-2006, 09:35 PM

I think so.

Well sort of.

Actually I dont know.

I haven't really met anyone who wouldn't vote for someone based on race or sex - but most everyone (that I have talked to) that supports Hillary or Obama, sort of seem simply interested on the basis that they are viable non-white male canidates.

I think in some areas TOO MUCH is made of their non-white, and non-maleness, but at the same time (although not in my area of metro Minnesota), I think Too much is made of their non-whiteness and non-maleness (but in a negative way).

ballz2wallz · 12-18-2006, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

I hate this question, we are ready for anything. To ask this question gives more credence to racist views.

Yeah, I don't know anyone who would reall take race as an issue either, but I DO know some who might take gender as an issue. I think the question is probably more relevant to a female president than a minority president.

We all know there are innate differences between a man and woman. We all know those differences influence the way they think, and therefore the way they act.

Personally, I wouldn't vote for Hillary mainly cause she's a total lib.

AntiCentrist · 12-18-2006, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

I wouldn't vote for Hillary mainly cause she's a total lib.

I wouldn't vote for Hillary because she would give us the same national policies we got from the last three Presidents, only styled to appeal to Democratic voters, rather than Republican voters (I know this because its what her husband did; the only difference between the Clintons and the Bushes is stylistic). I want someone like Howard Dean, Ronald Reagan, George McGovern, Barry Goldwater, you know, someone who's Presidency wouldn't be the same as all the other failed ones.

Plus Hillary comes off to me as a reprehensible, unkind, and downright awful human being. You just look at her, and you see Evil.

As for Barack Obama, if he were a White guy named Burt O'Bama, no one would even know who he is, let alone be talking about him for President, which is how it should be.

7960 · 12-18-2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

It seems the two best prospects are either female or black.

Democrat.......... you meant to say "two best DEMOCRAT prospects", right?

I would vote for the right woman or minority for president. I do not see one in this list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potenti...ntial_election

ballz2wallz · 12-19-2006, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by 7960

Democrat.......... you meant to say "two best DEMOCRAT prospects", right?

Yes, sorry.

Stoner · 12-21-2006, 08:24 PM

Clinton is not electable in a general election and Obama is too new (not to mention he's killing his chances everytime he speaks).

motivez · 12-22-2006, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Stoner

Obama is too new (not to mention he's killing his chances everytime he speaks).

Wow, what makes you think that?

Everyone I know who hears him speaks becomes enamored with him. He's articulate, charismatic, and has a message of "hope," etc.. that everyone eats up.

ballz2wallz · 12-25-2006, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

Everyone I know who hears him speaks becomes enamored with him.

Not everyone.

Everytime I hear him speak I think 'Hmm, he wants change, but how does he plan on making it?'

Thorgrim · 12-25-2006, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Not everyone.

Everytime I hear him speak I think 'Hmm, he wants change, but how does he plan on making it?'

Hey, even Kennedy at his highest point had his permanent doubters, and I don't think I've ever seen a politician with a higher following in the modern era

FDR is an older but better example, he won in landslides...but every year people voted Republican...

Obama isn't trying to get your vote

7960 · 12-27-2006, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Not everyone.

Everytime I hear him speak I think 'Hmm, he wants change, but how does he plan on making it?'

When people say they want change they're usually full of shit...the only change most politicians want is to go from "not in office" to "in office." All this "we need change!" shit is just hot air, and it gets even worse when they're questioned and prove they have no real plan, no real direction, no achievable goal. I can stand up and say "I want change!" all I want and if asked I can say "We need to straighten out the problem in iraq!!" but if someone's plan consists of "elect me and I'll work on it!!!" then I'd suggest voting for someone else.