LL 2008 Straw Poll - Who is your favorite Presidential candidate?

[motivez]

Why don't you feel he'd be a good or viable candidate?

With how deep Bush has gotten us into a bad situation in Iraq, I think we need someone at the helm with real command military experience. Someone who understands what it means to send troops into battle, who's been a soldier themselves, etc.. None of the other candidates really have that.

[JSmythe]

Because he wanted to invade Chechnya, iirc. If I don't, then it is because a military commander is exactly what we don't want as our president. For a variety of reasons.

[Thorgrim]

No, he didn't

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by JSmythe

Because he wanted to invade Chechnya, iirc. If I don't, then it is because a military commander is exactly what we don't want as our president. For a variety of reasons.

So you would rather have someone with no military experience running this country in a time of war?


It's a solid plan. It's been working great so far.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

I am not sure how you say either of those two are more "electable" than Obama? I think he won me over during the last 1/2 hour of Deep Impact.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

So you would rather have someone with no military experience running this country in a time of war?


It's a solid plan. It's been working great so far.

Don't forget that neither Lincoln, Wilson, nor FDR had any military experience.


It seems that those without military experience are the first to dump us into hellish war, yet those with military experience are the first to avoid it all costs.

[Jas0n]

I picked the token Libertarian, but in the interest of seeing an election get won, I would vote for Duncan Hunter if he were the Republican candidate. I saw him on the news the other day, he looked fairly promising.

[kinggovernor]

I plan on working on the McCain campaign

[Thorgrim]

The REAL McCain

I hope he wins the primary

He's the best bet, he flip flops enough as a senator to be kerry 2.0 and even if he did win, he's not a moronic mule like bush

[JaJae]

About as good as Hillary Clinton explaining to Code Pink why she voted for the war in 2003 and why we had to do it ourselves without the UN SC vote just like Clinton did Kosovo and Bosnia:

Originally Posted by Hillary 2003

With respect to whose responsibility it is to disarm Saddam Hussein, I just do not believe that, given the attitudes of many people in the world community today, that there would be a willingness to take on very difficult problems, were it not for the United States leadership, and I'm talking specifically about what had to be done in Bosnia and Kosovo where my husband could not get a Security Council resolution to save the Kosovar Albanians from ethnic cleansing. And we did it alone as the United States, and we had to do it alone. And so I see it somewhat differently. So forgive me for my experience and perspective.

Yet this past weekend she says:

Originally Posted by Hillary this weekend

I said that we should not go to war unless we have allies, so he took the authority that I and others gave him, and he misused it. And I regret that deeply. And if we had known then what we know now, there never would have been a vote, and I never would have voted to give this president that authority. … There are no do-overs in life. I wish there were. You know, I acted on the best judgment that I had at the time, and at the time I said this was not a vote for preemptive war, and the president took my vote and other votes and basically misused the authority we gave him.

[motivez]

Is there some conflict in admitting a mistake?

[JaJae]

Who admitted a mistake?

[ballz2wallz]

Can we get an update of those running in the poll?

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Who admitted a mistake?

Originally Posted by Clinton

I regret that deeply

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

What does she regret deeply? Giving authority to Bush who misused it by going into the war in Iraq without allies.

But.. when she gave the authority to Bush she said we should do it alone and without Security Counsel support like Bosnia and Kosovo. That's not admitting a mistake. She's lying.

She's just up shit's creek over her support of the war and she's backtracking to all hell trying to get herself out of it.

[Pro Street]

This poll should change at last bi-weekly, as things constantly change and people fall out of favor and/or the race.

[DosEquis]

Originally Posted by lew

Don't forget that neither Lincoln, Wilson, nor FDR had any military experience.


It seems that those without military experience are the first to dump us into hellish war, yet those with military experience are the first to avoid it all costs.

I dont think so. Eisenhower actually talked of to much military build up and to be careful to not have the military gain to much control or influence in government. Then look at today and the 450 billion dollar budget. Look at today where any candidate who even breathes "i think we should cut <insert something here>" it is automatically political suicide.

The hellish wars are those which were fought for policital or geo political gain. They were wars that the people were not behind. Wars such as Vietnam and Iraq. Wars where it appears that our young citizens are going to die for nothing or die for someone elses freedom, not our our freedom. Those wars which the people were behind it, like WW2, were successful because nearly the entire country supported it.

[lew]

Originally Posted by Jas0n

I picked the token Libertarian, but in the interest of seeing an election get won, I would vote for Duncan Hunter if he were the Republican candidate. I saw him on the news the other day, he looked fairly promising.

uh what?


Duncan Hunter on the Issues

[Dumpy Dooby]

Originally Posted by lew

uh what?


Duncan Hunter on the Issues

My take...

Bad

• Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
• Voted YES on restricting interstate transport of minors to get abortions. (Apr 2005)
• Voted YES on making it a crime to harm a fetus during another crime. (Feb 2004)
• Voted YES on forbidding human cloning for reproduction & medical research. (Feb 2003)
• Voted YES on funding for health providers who don't provide abortion info. (Sep 2002)
• Voted YES on federal crime to harm fetus while committing other crimes. (Apr 2001)
• Voted YES on barring transporting minors to get an abortion. (Jun 1999)
• Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent. (Dec 2005)
• Voted YES on protecting the Pledge of Allegiance. (Sep 2004)
• Voted YES on constitutional amendment prohibiting flag desecration. (Jun 2003)
• Voted YES on banning gay adoptions in DC. (Jul 1999)
• Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
• Rated 7% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
• Voted NO on funding for alternative sentencing instead of more prisons. (Jun 2000)
• Voted YES on more prosecution and sentencing for juvenile crime. (Jun 1999)
• Voted NO on replacing death penalty with life imprisonment. (Apr 1994)
• Rated 30% by CURE, indicating anti-rehabilitation crime votes. (Dec 2000)
• More prisons, more enforcement, effective death penalty. (Sep 1994)
• Voted YES on military border patrols to battle drugs & terrorism. (Sep 2001)
• Voted YES on prohibiting needle exchange & medical marijuana in DC. (Oct 1999)
• Voted YES on subjecting federal employees to random drug tests. (Sep 1998)
• Voted YES on requiring states to test students. (May 2001)
• Voted YES on giving federal aid only to schools allowing volunt