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Old 12-27-2006, 08:57 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post
so let me get this straight...and, no, I'm not calling any soldier stupid, I'm just pointing out some irony:

Kerry messes up a joke
anyone with half a brain knows it was a messed up joke
those that were supposingly branded as "stupid" still don't realize it was a messed up joke


am I the only one who sees this?
Using that logic you're cutting through many people in this thread
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 09:43 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Diamond Cross View Post
It wasn't a joke. John Kerry has a long time of hating the military and negatively criticising it.
“I can’t overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.”


That is what was supposed to be said.

It was a joke.
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:15 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Uh, because the correct version of the joke he meant to say was released ahead of his speech in the transcript to the press, etc... he simply bungled it. Badly.

You obviously don't know much about public speaking. I know people who do it often. You ad lib all the time when you get a feel for an audience. Rarely do you make a strait "off the script" speech unless it is a formal occasion. The meaning of what he said was very clear. There was no confusion involved. He is not that stupid.
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:16 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
More like not smart enough to understand that he misspoke

Hey, Misspoke is a NIXON term. I claim copyright!
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 10:26 PM   #45
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A few reasons why some soldiers don't want to sit with Kerry:


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And if everything went so great, and this soldiers blog is full of it, then where is the media coverage? Did the disgraced Rumsfeld dodge the press last time he was over? I recall I saw pictures of him with the men!
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:07 PM   #46
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There's no evidence to support the theory that he meant to say it. It's wishful thinking by those who like having new excuses to hate him.
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:10 PM   #47
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
There's no evidence to support the theory that he meant to say it. It's wishful thinking by those who like having new excuses to hate him.
There's really no evidence to show he didn't mean to say it.
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:11 PM   #48
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Of course there is.

The correct version was released ahead of time in the transcript of the prepared speech. He has a history of bungling things, the whole "voted against it before I voted for it" deal, etc, etc..
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:13 PM   #49
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
Of course there is.

The correct version was released ahead of time in the transcript of the prepared speech. He has a history of bungling things, the whole "voted against it before I voted for it" deal, etc, etc..
I'm pretty sure the "correct" version was given much later after the speech. As in he could have wrote whatever he wanted at that point. I don't remember hearing the transcript was released ahead of time. It was an informal speech at a university... I don't see why the transcript would even have been provided for that.
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:16 PM   #50
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No, it was passed out ahead of time to the media personnel at the event.
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:23 PM   #51
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
No, it was passed out ahead of time to the media personnel at the event.
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an artful dodge so that later, when he said what he meant, he could claim to have misspoken

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Old 12-27-2006, 11:25 PM   #52
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If that's the argument I wont bother trying to convince further..

I know there were articles saying it was released ahead of time to the media present at the event. Pretty sure that's a standard thing for most speeches.
 
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:28 PM   #53
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
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an artful dodge so that later, when he said what he meant, he could claim to have misspoken

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Old 12-28-2006, 01:03 AM   #54
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Boy look at all the spin spin spin by the Democrats. of course if it was bush who made a joke but botched it, they'd be all over it looking for new ways to haqte him.

Just so much partisan politics, and there was nothing released to the speech, otherwise there'd be a press reports about the speech beforehand.

And the so-called corrected statement still isn't funny and is no joke either.
 
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:51 AM   #55
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
There's really no evidence to show he didn't mean to say it.
that's a logical fallacy and you know it
 
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:21 AM   #56
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
No, it was passed out ahead of time to the media personnel at the event.
proof?
 
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post
“I can’t overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.”


That is what was supposed to be said.

It was a joke.
why didn't he correct himself as soon as he said it? is he such a drone that he says whatever is written infront of him without comprehending the bullshit that's flying out of his trap? kind of hard to insult someone's intelligence when you lack that very same characteristic.

and didn't bush do better overall in school than kerry did?
 
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Old 12-28-2006, 09:06 AM   #58
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Originally Posted by phreak View Post
and didn't bush do better overall in school than kerry did?
yes, but his father was more influential so *of*course* he made harvard change W's grade
 
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Old 12-28-2006, 10:49 AM   #59
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Old 12-28-2006, 10:54 AM   #60
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
The far left would know more about Iraq than they do?
because the far right has done such a great job !!!



 
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