US Soldiers to John Kerry: Eat alone

[Diesel66]

Originally Posted by motivez

He's not reaffirming his statements, he's saying the GOP is twisting his intention into something for political gain.

The key part of the statement:



Saying he meant to criticize the President rather than the troops. He should have admitted he botched the joke earlier. I've said his apology game too late.

remember he said that directly to McCain who called him out on the statement. So McCain is crazy according to Kerry.

[motivez]

I don't care if someone calls McCain crazy

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by motivez

It's a matter of fact, not opinion. The facts point to a simple botched joke. You're free to ignore the facts in the case that point to my conclusion, I can't stop wishful thinking or make believe.

So you read his minds do you? You know his absolute intent and any other speculation is out of the question? As I tried to say in a polite way, I respect your opionion but it seem pointless to continue to argue. I did not ignor your points, they just didn't prove anything. I was foolish to think I would get any respect in return.......

[SoFlaJDM]

A Shoot and A Miss for Right Wing Blogs

Steve from The Carpetbagger Report catches the righties in full "Kerry Derangement Syndrome" swing. They love to keep pushing that "Kerry hates the troops and the troops hate Kerry" meme, even when they have to make up events to prove it.

(S)everal of the right's major blogs yesterday were all aflutter over a picture of John Kerry, in Iraq a couple of weeks ago, apparently sitting alone at a mess hall. The picture, as the story went, proves that Kerry's "botched joke" has caused lingering resentment among men and women in uniform. If the troops respected Kerry, he wouldn't have been sitting by himself at the breakfast shown in the photo.
The photo, and the accompanying narrative about how the troops avoided Kerry, made the rounds by way of far-right radio-host Scott Hennen, who claims the "priceless story" was sent by "a friend of mine serving in Iraq." (If Hennen's name sounds familiar, it's because he has an interesting history with the White House.)
The problem, however, is that the "priceless story" may not be true.

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by motivez

I don't care if someone calls McCain crazy

Hot Tempered Vietnam War Hero!

[Diamond Cross]

It was no botched joke. Where's a copy of the so called speech that is supposed to eexst with a correct saying on it? I want to see a scan of that exact speech with the correct saying on it before I'll even consider changing my mind. Kerry has a long history of hating the military and negatively criticising both them and the GOP in the exact same way he is complaining that the GOP is negatively criticising him.

Which means he's a little baby because his complaining just shows he can dish it but can't take it and actually expects the GOP to not respond to his attacks.

It's a simple concept, if you can't take it don't dish it.

[Thorgrim]

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

A Shoot and A Miss for Right Wing Blogs

Steve from The Carpetbagger Report catches the righties in full "Kerry Derangement Syndrome" swing. They love to keep pushing that "Kerry hates the troops and the troops hate Kerry" meme, even when they have to make up events to prove it.

(S)everal of the right's major blogs yesterday were all aflutter over a picture of John Kerry, in Iraq a couple of weeks ago, apparently sitting alone at a mess hall. The picture, as the story went, proves that Kerry's "botched joke" has caused lingering resentment among men and women in uniform. If the troops respected Kerry, he wouldn't have been sitting by himself at the breakfast shown in the photo.
The photo, and the accompanying narrative about how the troops avoided Kerry, made the rounds by way of far-right radio-host Scott Hennen, who claims the "priceless story" was sent by "a friend of mine serving in Iraq." (If Hennen's name sounds familiar, it's because he has an interesting history with the White House.)
The problem, however, is that the "priceless story" may not be true.

way to make the original critics look stupid

[RMNIXON]

"may not be true"

Now that's investigative reporting!

[SoFlaJDM]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

"may not be true"

Now that's investigative reporting!

that was just the first part of the article... it goes on from there

i'll spoonfeed you the rest... here you go

At Hennen’s site, commenter “Anthony” noted that the picture’s embedded data, just a right-click away, shows the picture was taken on January 9, 2006 — several months before Kerry botched his joke….
News accounts at the time put Kerry in England around that time — which might explain the giant Union Jack hanging on the far wall.
At PowerLine, another problem surfaced: As commenter “Angus” noted, the flag hanging to the right of the Union Jack belongs to Portugal, which withdrew its mighty 120-man coalition force from Iraq nearly two years ago.

Between Cliff May’s email yesterday, and Kerry’s questionable pic today, the right isn’t having any luck at all, are they?

At a certain point, this is just trivia. The right enjoys taking cheap shots at Kerry, so whether the photo — and the story behind the photo — are legitimate or not is almost irrelevant. If we learn for certain the picture is not what Hennen and others claim, they’ll just find some other reason to smear Kerry.
But a few certain facts remain:
* Kerry is a decorated war hero, and most of his critics aren’t.
* Any suggestion that Kerry’s “botched joke” was criticism of the troops is ridiculous.
* Kerry chose to spend time during the holiday season with troops in Iraq, and most of his critics didn’t.
* Kerry has spent the past few years being right about the war in Iraq, and most of his critics haven’t.
This isn’t about 2008; this is about a little decency. There’s reason to believe the photo is bogus, but even if we never know for sure, the glee with which the right smears Kerry is absurd.

[Diamond Cross]

John Kerry lied about getting his medals, and even wounded himself to get one.

Any suggestion that it is a botched joke is ridiculous until I see a scan of the original speech. Until then, either claim has no wieght.

John Kerry still hates the military and is only using the opportunity for op shots, nothing more.

Complaints about the GOP criticising him is invalid because he dishes out jsut as much criticism towards the GOP, especially Presidenty Bush.

Untilo I see a scan of the original speech, I'm not going to change my mind. Without that scan there is no hard evidence to support the claim of it being a botched joke and can only conclude that it is indeed a negative criticism of the military, something Kerry has a long track record of.

[Diamond Cross]

On both sides. Without a scan of the original document there is no hard evidence to support it being a botched joke.

Show me the scan of the original speech, and I might change my mind if the scan supports the so-called "botched joke theory".

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

On both sides. Without a scan of the original document there is no hard evidence to support it being a botched joke.

Show me the scan of the original speech, and I might change my mind if the scan supports the so-called "botched joke theory".

You mean to say Kerry's staff might have been dishonest?

[RMNIXON]

More Kerry political honesty:

[Diesel66]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

John Kerry lied about getting his medals, and even wounded himself to get one.

Totally false. He may be a snake in the grass but the metals were earned until PROOF is presented. The one possible "self-inflicted wound" was from a ricochet.

[motivez]

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

More Kerry political honesty:

Where are the pictures of every single politician who's ever run for President doing bullshit they normally wouldn't do?

The insinuation that political [dis]honesty is something that's limited to Kerry is laughable.

edit:
Oh, and you can ask any reporter who was at the event for a copy of the text of the speech.

Or, the wishful thinking in the land of make believe can continue and people can believe and say what they want, even though it's completely unfounded and contradicted by the evidence. I mean, people put their heads in the sand about a lot of things, I don't see why this would be different.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by motivez

edit:
Oh, and you can ask any reporter who was at the event for a copy of the text of the speech.

Do you have a link to show that the copy of the speech was presented to the press before he gave it?

[motivez]

Not anymore, I did when the story was new.

[phreak]

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

that was just the first part of the article... it goes on from there





i'll spoonfeed you the rest... here you go

At Hennen’s site, commenter “Anthony” noted that the picture’s embedded data, just a right-click away, shows the picture was taken on January 9, 2006 — several months before Kerry botched his joke…

it was take on jan 9th but there are christmas decorations still up.

[phreak]

Michelle Malkin: Questions about the John Kerry photo<br>Answer: It's real and accurate

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by motivez

Not anymore, I did when the story was new.

I'm pretty sure you're mistaken. I remember the portion of the speech was never was released to the media until well after the speech was given.