US Soldiers to John Kerry: Eat alone

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM

that was just the first part of the article... it goes on from there

i'll spoonfeed you the rest... here you go[indent][b]At Hennen’s site, commenter “Anthony”

I've had my camera for over a year now. Don't think I've changed the date in it.. That's not a good way to verify the authenticity of a photo...

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by phreak

Michelle Malkin: Questions about the John Kerry photo<br>Answer: It's real and accurate

Well a right-wing blogger says it true, so it must be!


Malkin is not a reliable source. She's a hack.

[Diamond Cross]

No, she isn't. It's the people who support Kerry have no credibility.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Well a right-wing blogger says it true, so it must be!


Malkin is not a reliable source. She's a hack.

Try attacking the points she makes in the blog and not the person. I agree she's an annoying bimbo, but at the same time who has the better argument? Mr. "the exif data wasn't updated on the camera therefore it's false " or the one who contacts people and actually musters up first hand accounts and other photos of the event?

Attack Malkin all you want. I agree she's a hack and she annoys me to no end. I can't watch her for 30 seconds without cringing. Yet, the points she makes there are spot on.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Try attacking the points she makes in the blog and not the person. I agree she's an annoying bimbo, but at the same time who has the better argument? Mr. "the exif data wasn't updated on the camera therefore it's false " or the one who contacts people and actually musters up first hand accounts and other photos of the event?

Attack Malkin all you want. I agree she's a hack and she annoys me to no end. I can't watch her for 30 seconds without cringing. Yet, the points she makes there are spot on.

She makes no point. Infact, she proves the whole thing to be wrong by posting more pics with soldiers sitting there with Kerry. Perhaps that single picture that was posted was taken before or after thos soldiers were eating.

This is such a pathetic non-story.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

No, she isn't. It's the people who support Kerry have no credibility.

Swing and a miss.

[Diamond Cross]

Strike three you're out. Game set match.

You can't counter her argument because she's telling the truth, and typical of partisan politics, those who lose resort to insults.

Nothing ever changes.

[7960]

Originally Posted by Diesel66

Totally false. He may be a snake in the grass but the metals were earned until PROOF is presented. The one possible "self-inflicted wound" was from a ricochet.

I think statements from the doctor who addressed the "wounds" goes pretty far as PROOF.

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200405041626.asp

I wonder how many wounds covered by a band-aid got other soldiers a purple heart and qualified as one of his three to get sent home?

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

Strike three you're out. Game set match.

You can't counter her argument because she's telling the truth, and typical of partisan politics, those who lose resort to insults.

Nothing ever changes.

#1 - I can't counter an argument that says she talked on the phone to an "un-named source". She posted pictures of soldiers sitting right there with him. The story is now dead.

#2 - You act as if you aren't a part of partisian politics, yet you foam at the mouth over Kerry, saying he hates the troops. You drank the kool-aid. Take a look in a mirror then look at his voting record.

#3 - I never insulted you. Get over the victim complex.

[Diamond Cross]

You can'tt count counter the other claims and the claim of the soldier she did talk to who stated he was there and the soldiers have been avoiding him like the plague.

No partisan here. John kerry has a long history of hating the troops, that is the truth. I've been stating that if there's a prepared speech with the joke on it you should scan it in to support your case and if it supports what you're saying about it being a joke, then I'd change my mind, otherwise you're the one providing spin control for kerry which is nothing more than playing partisan politics.

I didn't say you insuloted me. You insulted her for no reason. If she's a partgisan hack then so are TPM.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

You can'tt count counter the other claims and the claim of the soldier she did talk to who stated he was there and the soldiers have been avoiding him like the plague.

No partisan here. John kerry has a long history of hating the troops, that is the truth. I've been stating that if there's a prepared speech with the joke on it you should scan it in to support your case and if it supports what you're saying about it being a joke, then I'd change my mind, otherwise you're the one providing spin control for kerry which is nothing more than playing partisan politics.

I didn't say you insuloted me. You insulted her for no reason. If she's a partgisan hack then so are TPM.

So until I get my hands on a press release dated that day, scan it, post it, and let you say it's a lie, you won't believe huh?

We had links in the thread when it happened, but I guess you like your own reality. Enjoy.

Lets see your sources for Kerry hating the military. This should be good for a laugh.

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by JaJae

I'm pretty sure you're mistaken. I remember the portion of the speech was never was released to the media until well after the speech was given.

It wasn't even some big media event. He was talking to very left wing anti-war college students in California. The kind who kick the Military off their institutions because they care for free speech so much. I don't know what the truth is here. Or even why we should care since Kerry is political history. He will never be more than a Senator. But I think it a safe bet that he knew his audience damn well and played to them not being aware that the modern internet media catches everything these days. Just like the "Gun" photo I posted, he was playing to a certain crowd and got caught.

[Diamond Cross]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

So until I get my hands on a press release dated that day, scan it, post it, and let you say it's a lie, you won't believe huh?

We had links in the thread when it happened, but I guess you like your own reality. Enjoy.

Lets see your sources for Kerry hating the military. This should be good for a laugh.

You're the one with claim, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, which you don't have.

It's a simple conept really, put up a picture of the scan otherwise you're the liar for Kerry.

But you won't because you know damn good and well there was no prepared speech with a joke. You're the one lost in your reality.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

You're the one with claim, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, which you don't have.

It's a simple conept really, put up a picture of the scan otherwise you're the liar for Kerry.

But you won't because you know damn good and well there was no prepared speech with a joke. You're the one lost in your reality.

Sorry, i'm not a member of the press. They don't send me copies of the releases. I'll believe those who say they saw it.


So...lets see that proof about Kerry hating the military. You seem to have forgotten about it.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Sorry, i'm not a member of the press. They don't send me copies of the releases. I'll believe those who say they saw it.


So...lets see that proof about Kerry hating the military. You seem to have forgotten about it.

Who said they saw a copy of it before he gave the speech? Got any proof of that? I don't remember that at all. In fact, I remember just the opposite. His workers released a document well after the speech and it was criticized for being a pathetic cover-up excuse because by that point they could have wrote whatever they wanted.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by JaJae

Who said they saw a copy of it before he gave the speech? Got any proof of that? I don't remember that at all. In fact, I remember just the opposite. His workers released a document well after the speech and it was criticized for being a pathetic cover-up excuse because by that point they could have wrote whatever they wanted.

John Kerry, A Mangled Joke, And The Truth - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought

Kerry intended to make a joke about all the mistakes made in Iraq by George Bush, who certainly has not made good use of his education:

“I can’t overstress the importance of a great education. Do you know where you end up if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy? You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.” [Update: Journalists who have since reviewed the actual prepared text report that it ended with “you end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush.” ]

So now somebody needs to point out that this is a blog and not a reliable news source.

I would point out that this whole subject came from a blog.

[Diamond Cross]

And therefore not a reliable newsource, on that point I can agree.

Try looking for the site Vietnam Veterans Against kerry. There's already a link to it in this thread by RMNIXON I believe.

I can't wait for the spin you're going to give it.

[JaJae]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

John Kerry, A Mangled Joke, And The Truth - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought



So now somebody needs to point out that this is a blog and not a reliable news source.

I would point out that this whole subject came from a blog.

This doesn't show that they received a copy of the transcript before the speech. It shows that they were provided a transcript and reviewed it. we all know they got a transcript. The question is.. when.

[JaJae]

John Kerry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

On October 30, 2006, Kerry was a headline speaker at a campaign rally being held for Democratic California gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides at Pasadena City College in Pasadena, California. Speaking to an audience composed mainly of college students, Kerry said, "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." [15] Kerry claimed that he had intended the remark as a jab at President Bush, but he had inadvertently left out the key word "us." Kerry and his aides described these remarks as a "botched joke" aimed at President Bush.[16] In Kerry's prepared remarks, which he later released, the corresponding line was "... you end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq. Just ask President Bush." [17]

He did NOT release his prepared speech before the event. It wasn't done until much after... which proves nothing as to what he meant to say.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

Try looking for the site Vietnam Veterans Against kerry. There's already a link to it in this thread by RMNIXON I believe.

I'm going to need some scanned versions of documents showing how Kerry hates the troops or you are a liar.