Democrats Protested at Congress - Page 2

DosEquis · 01-04-2007, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Foley was never in the media spotlight as the moral and political voice of the party. Sheehan was.

It's funny how quickly people are to forget the role Sheehan played. She got a lot of criticism saying "She's just a mother, she's disgracing her son, etcetc" The liberals fought against that and kept throwing her at the media to make her into something more. They made her the star of their party.

UH... foley was the guy in charge of the committee for missing and exploited children. Is that good enough?

EITHER WAY this verbal diarreah she is putting forward represents the democrats about as well as Pat Robertson and Anne Coulter represent the republican party. They represent a small minority.

DosEquis · 01-04-2007, 08:43 PM

Actually... I have found a better comparison.

If Cindy Sheehan, though unelected, can represent the democratic war policy....

Then this guy, who had meetings with the president, can represent the republicans on gay prostitution and drugs.

Its only fair.

Diesel66 · 01-04-2007, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

You know, unlike Republicans, who let their party stray wildly away from the core beliefs of the party and do stuff no true conservative would ever be on board with.

conservatives arent backing them anymore.

Scrum · 01-04-2007, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Actually... I have found a better comparison.

If Cindy Sheehan, though unelected, can represent the democratic war policy....

Then this guy, who had meetings with the president, can represent the republicans on gay prostitution and drugs.

Its only fair.

JaJae · 01-04-2007, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

UH... foley was the guy in charge of the committee for missing and exploited children. Is that good enough?

EITHER WAY this verbal diarreah she is putting forward represents the democrats about as well as Pat Robertson and Anne Coulter represent the republican party. They represent a small minority.

Have you ever heard his name before the scandal?

motivez · 01-04-2007, 10:57 PM

Yes, he was in the documentary "Jesus Camp," if you saw it. I'd heard of him.

The dude was one of the biggest faces of the evangelical right, as pointed out he had weekly meetings with high level Bush Administration officials, including the President himself to discuss important issues for the Christian Right in this country.

Anyone who kept up with that specific area of politics had certainly heard his name.. which is why what happened was so hilarious. If he had been a small time, two bit minister from Backwater Arkansas, it wouldn't have been national news.

RMNIXON · 01-04-2007, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

UH... foley was the guy in charge of the committee for missing and exploited children. Is that good enough?

And he was booted by a Republican Congress, not "cheered" durring a pathetic centure like someone we know. Do you really want to bring up which side of the political spectrum is weak on protecting children against sexual predators? Because I am ready for that post. Be careful about throwing stones from a glass house now that the Dems are in charge of it.

thatguyoverthere · 01-04-2007, 11:46 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Yes, he was in the documentary "Jesus Camp," if you saw it. I'd heard of him.

The dude was one of the biggest faces of the evangelical right, as pointed out he had weekly meetings with high level Bush Administration officials, including the President himself to discuss important issues for the Christian Right in this country.

Anyone who kept up with that specific area of politics had certainly heard his name.. which is why what happened was so hilarious. If he had been a small time, two bit minister from Backwater Arkansas, it wouldn't have been national news.

It's a great point. This guy was very influential, and he represents the right wing just as much as Cindy represents the left wing.

And I agree with Nixon, Democrats got elected in spite of her more likely.

That said, I'm glad she's holding the Democrats feet to the fire! let them know, loud and clear every day, that this is what they want and this is what they expect. The same old blah blah blah about campaign finance reform, which won't get implmented anyway? Yada yada, business as usual?

It's about time for people on either side stood up and made their voices heard. These are the issues that we want addressed; for better or for worse, they simply cannot be ignored any longer. They must be acted upon.

I would rather the Democratic party take some meaningful actions, rather than keep the status quo. Then again, they don't really need to take action, do they? All they have to do is put the brakes on this out of control, radical current administration and they'll be a success.

motivez · 01-04-2007, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by RMNIXON

And he was booted by a Republican Congress, not "cheered" durring a pathetic centure like someone we know.

Really, when exactly was he booted?

As far as I know, he resigned, and the Republican Congress you speak of cleared him of all ethics violations

DosEquis · 01-05-2007, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

Really, when exactly was he booted?

As far as I know, he resigned, and the Republican Congress you speak of cleared him of all ethics violations

Not only that... word has it that the republican congress knew of this type of "activity" for 2 years and never said anything

Scrum · 01-05-2007, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Not only that... word has it that the republican congress knew of this type of "activity" for 2 years and never said anything

They cleared themselves of any and all wrongdoing in the Foley situation.

Silly liberals.

RMNIXON · 01-05-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by DosEquis

Not only that... word has it that the republican congress knew of this type of "activity" for 2 years and never said anything

Do you suggest that the Democrats in congress would investigate and then kick any Democrat out of congress based on those e-mails, not the IM's, the e-mails of the prior dates that were known at the time. That is all the evidence anybody has beyond your "word is" stories. Tell me that with honesty and I will respect it......

RMNIXON · 01-05-2007, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Really, when exactly was he booted?

As far as I know, he resigned, and the Republican Congress you speak of cleared him of all ethics violations

I stand corrected! My bad!

He was fully aware of the consequences of his behavior and resigned before any such action could take place. Unlike the other guy who was "cheered" by members of that other party.

northhunter · 01-06-2007, 05:42 PM

From what I saw Sheehan and those with her didn't just disrupt the press conference they shut it down completly. Whether you believe in her views on the war in Iraq or not you can't justify the way she expressed them in this case. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!

motivez · 01-06-2007, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by northhunter

From what I saw Sheehan and those with her didn't just disrupt the press conference they shut it down completly. Whether you believe in her views on the war in Iraq or not you can't justify the way she expressed them in this case. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you!

I always thought that her and that "Code Pink" group went about stuff the wrong way as far as disrupting events, it just makes them look childish.

dpakman who hosts Midweek Politics interviewed her and I believe he asked her a similar question about how it makes them look

Welcome to the site

RMNIXON · 01-07-2007, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

I always thought that her and that "Code Pink" group went about stuff the wrong way as far as disrupting events, it just makes them look childish.

Guess who Code Pink helped get elected as Governor with over the top antics?

RMNIXON · 01-07-2007, 05:47 PM

I don't think Sheehan represent the party. Not the majority of it anyway. That was her words I quoted. How she thinks. That her and her activist friends won the election. But the media did go overboard with Sheehan in the first place and I think pure Bias had a role. And now it comes back to haunt the party. What comes around goes around, or something like that......

motivez · 01-09-2007, 07:00 PM

Sheehan played a much smaller roll in winning the Democrats the election than blogs like Daily Kos, Atrios, MyDD, etc..

They had a huge impact on fundraising and grassroots organizations.. I wont say entirely, but they had a huge, huge role in putting people like Tester into office. Without their support I doubt very seriously that Democrats would have taken the Senate.

Donkey® · 01-09-2007, 07:09 PM

Sheehan > Abramoff

Thorgrim · 01-09-2007, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by motivez

Sheehan played a much smaller roll in winning the Democrats the election than blogs like Daily Kos, Atrios, MyDD, etc..

They had a huge impact on fundraising and grassroots organizations.. I wont say entirely, but they had a huge, huge role in putting people like Tester into office. Without their support I doubt very seriously that Democrats would have taken the Senate.

I don't have the links but Kossacks went hardcore for Webb over Morrison in the primary when it looked like Morrison had it fixed with party insiders, Webb eecked out a victory in that one, and everyone knew he was the only one who could beat Allen