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Old 01-08-2007, 10:50 PM   #1
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Democrats open floodgates for Higher Taxes

House rules change clears way for tax increases

By Donald Lambro
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
January 7, 2007


One of the first key procedural votes in the Democrat-controlled House last week established legislative rules that Republicans say will make it easier to raise taxes by a simple majority vote.

The straight party-line vote received little attention Thursday as Rep. Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, was elected speaker of the House. But Republican leaders and conservative tax-cut advocates said it opened up a huge loophole in a Republican-imposed rule drawn from the Republicans' 1994 Contract with America, which requires a supermajority, or three-fifths vote, to raise taxes.


House rules change clears way for tax increases*-*Nation/Politics*-*The Washington Times, America's Newspaper


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Old 01-08-2007, 10:57 PM   #2
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at least something's getting done, huh?
 
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:16 PM   #3
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Considering americans gave up on the contract with America...slowly giving more and more seats to democrats in 96, 98 and 2000, then briefly giving them more after 9/11, I'd say the "Contract with America" has as much of a mandate left as the "Great Society" does
 
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:23 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Considering americans gave up on the contract with America...slowly giving more and more seats to democrats in 96, 98 and 2000, then briefly giving them more after 9/11, I'd say the "Contract with America" has as much of a mandate left as the "Great Society" does


Then why is this being done so...................















quietly?

 
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:26 PM   #5
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Good.

We currently have an 8.67 trillion dollar problem, and it will be some place between 9 and 9.5 trillion by the time he leaves. Spending cuts alone are not substantial enough to put a dent in this debt that your conservative presidents have run up. We WASTE 400 billion a year on interest. That is nearly our defense budget. "Conservatives" see no issue with this because they said WUHHL LOOK at the GDP no big deal. So its no big deal to spend 400 billion on interest, on debt, but heads fucking roll when its 400 billion for healthcare.
 
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Old 01-08-2007, 11:44 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Then why is this being done so...................







quietly?


It's not, you can read about it anywhere, but as there is no solid plan for exactly how we are going to change income taxes this month, there's no big discussion about it

However, Republicans were complaining about it if you bothered to watch CSPAN, it's not a state secret...the democratic response was pretty simple, they think its a dumb rule for 2007-2008...and I agree
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:12 AM   #7
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How else are we going to make up this administrations debt?
 
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Originally Posted by sj23 View Post
How else are we going to make up this administrations debt?
Less spending comes to mind.

It's better than ruining our economic boom.
 
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I get a good chuckle when people call this an "economic boom".

If we were lucky, i bet we could only get them (democrats and republicans) to trim maybe 3% of the budget and we are still running deficits. More taxes are going to be neccessary to pay for the things that "conservatives" bought and financed.
 
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Originally Posted by DosEquis View Post
I get a good chuckle when people call this an "economic boom".

If we were lucky, i bet we could only get them (democrats and republicans) to trim maybe 3% of the budget and we are still running deficits. More taxes are going to be neccessary to pay for the things that "conservatives" bought and financed.
the canadian dollar is almost stronger than the USD, real boom there
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 12:00 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
Less spending comes to mind.

It's better than ruining our economic boom.



Link to "boom"? BTW, it's kind of ridiculous to bring up "less spending" as a solution to this deficit created by the Republicans.
 
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
BTW, it's kind of ridiculous to bring up "less spending" as a solution to this deficit created by the Republicans.
Why? It's the best solution that neither party wants to embrace.
 
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Link to "boom"? BTW, it's kind of ridiculous to bring up "less spending" as a solution to this deficit created by the Republicans.
Republicans spending this much is fine because he likes what they do.
 
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Why? It's the best solution that neither party wants to embrace.
So you are asking the Democrats to fix the problems the Republicans created?
 
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So you are asking the Democrats to fix the problems the Republicans created?
It's what Clinton had to do, no one gives him credit, get used to the thankless job of cleaning up after the GOP
 
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
So you are asking the Democrats to fix the problems the Republicans created?


Only if they fix the problem the way HE wants them to (invade a country or spend way too much or something)
 
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It's what Clinton had to do, no one gives him credit, get used to the thankless job of cleaning up after the GOP
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Only if they fix the problem the way HE wants them to (invade a country or spend way too much or something)
Funny that I don't remember him complaining about spending up until a few months ago.
 
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
Only if they fix the problem the way HE wants them to (invade a country or spend way too much or something)
Or save money by cutting spending instead of raising taxes.

There is more than one way to skin a cat.
 
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Old 01-09-2007, 02:33 PM   #19
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We're going to have to raise taxes in order to cost the huge spending from the past 6 years.

the money has to come from somewhere.
 
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We're going to have to raise taxes in order to cost the huge spending from the past 6 years.

the money has to come from somewhere.
Cut spending = cut worthless programs = money

Voila!
 
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