Reid breaking ranks with Pelosi Democrats on Iraq! - Page 2

Scrum · 01-12-2007, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

"If you only knew what we know"

that was regarding WMD in 2002.

You saw Olbermann last night.

Stylerod · 01-12-2007, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

So like Bush, you are going to find the few people who agree with him and tout them as the ones who know what's going on?

Does the name "Shinseki" mean anything to you?

Laugh all you want. You have no position of responsibility or knowledge of what information he has that made him come to that conclusion. I posted that information because someone said "all democrats are against it" when obviously they aren't.

You're anti Iraq war. You will fight any opinion that might keep us there longer and only support opinion that will get us out as quickly as possible. So your opinion is much less to me then his. Hell, he is anti Iraq war and still thinks sending 20-30k more troops will help. You probably figure he's a sellout because HE doesn't go by what YOU think he should.

Scrum · 01-12-2007, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Laugh all you want. You have no position of responsibility or knowledge of what information he has that made him come to that conclusion. I posted that information because someone said "all democrats are against it" when obviously they aren't.

You're anti Iraq war. You will fight any opinion that might keep us there longer and only support opinion that will get us out as quickly as possible. So your opinion is much less to me then his. Hell, he is anti Iraq war and still thinks sending 20-30k more troops will help. You probably figure he's a sellout because HE doesn't go by what YOU think he should.

Ok, try looking at the Baker panel then. They wrote it out clearly.

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

You saw Olbermann last night.

every night FTW

ballz2wallz · 01-12-2007, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

every night FTW

Olby in a nutshell.

Thorgrim · 01-12-2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

I'm sure you know a lot more then Silvestre Reyes does. You're privy to the same information, right?

As I recall there was a conservatie post on here talking about the shortcomings of Reyes knowledge when it came to Islamic matters in Iraq

The congressman stumbled when asked whether al-Qaida was predominantly a Shia or a Sunni organisation.

Mr Reyes guessed that the followers of the Saudi fugitive, Osama bin Laden, were primarily Shia.

In fact, al-Qaida is an extremist Sunni organisation, and many of its followers see Shia as heretics.

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Olby in a nutshell.

so it's a bunch of clips.

Stylerod · 01-12-2007, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Ok, try looking at the Baker panel then. They wrote it out clearly.

I respect what they wrote as well. There isn't any ONE solution that will/won't work. There are different strategies to get different results. You seem to only see one, get out. If that isn't what is said you argue against it every time.

Scrum · 01-12-2007, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

As I recall there was a conservatie post on here talking about the shortcomings of Reyes knowledge when it came to Islamic matters in Iraq

FBI's top counter-terrorists lacked basic knowledge about terrorists

ballz2wallz · 01-12-2007, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

so it's a bunch of clips.

aka nutshell

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

aka nutshell

ok

Stylerod · 01-12-2007, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

As I recall there was a conservatie post on here talking about the shortcomings of Reyes knowledge when it came to Islamic matters in Iraq

Phantom
Perpetual Noob

libertarian

I don't see where I posted in that thread.

I also don't see where either you or scrum defended or attacked Reyes for not knowing it. Seems the thread was created to make fun of the head of the FBI anti terrorism unit during 9/11. It seemed that it backfired a bit when it was shown the guy was given the position by Clinton and there was a lot of the usual bickering that goes on when a thor thread is shown to be worthless. Then thor starts to talk about computers

for some reason.

Of course you are going to try to attack him NOW because he doesn't support your point of view.

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 01:42 PM

there was a lot of the usual bickering that goes on when a thor thread is shown to be worthless.

Let's try to keep our negative opinions of other people's threads to ourselves.

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Olby in a nutshell.

Look at his eyes in every single clip. Stares blankly at the teleprompter... for the entire show. All he does is read. Doesn't dare do a real debate with competing facts or get opposing views on his show. Just sits up there on his liberal elitist thrown and recites garbage given to him to by other liberal elitists.

Thorgrim · 01-12-2007, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Look at his eyes in every single clip. Stares blankly at the teleprompter... for the entire show. All he does is read. Doesn't dare do a real debate with competing facts or get opposing views on his show. Just sits up there on his liberal elitist thrown and recites garbage given to him to by other liberal elitists.

As opposed to...?

Even if your hateful remarks were true...how would that differ from...president bush, conservative pundits, moderate pundits, etc

Donkey® · 01-12-2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Laugh all you want. You have no position of responsibility or knowledge of what information he has that made him come to that conclusion. I posted that information because someone said "all democrats are against it" when obviously they aren't.

You're anti Iraq war. You will fight any opinion that might keep us there longer and only support opinion that will get us out as quickly as possible. So your opinion is much less to me then his. Hell, he is anti Iraq war and still thinks sending 20-30k more troops will help. You probably figure he's a sellout because HE doesn't go by what YOU think he should.

There's a difference between being "anti-Iraq war" and "Anti-bullshit no plan waste of time." I can't speak for him, but I would be ALL FOR actually sending in enough troops to fucking end this bullshit once and for all. Unfortuntely, that isn't happening. So why bother to send anymore at all? It isn't going to do anything.

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

As opposed to...?

Even if your hateful remarks were true...how would that differ from...president bush, conservative pundits, moderate pundits, etc

Watch say Stewart, O'Rielly, Hannity/Colmes, any other person... they do things like I don't know, improv.. move their heads.. um.. pretend to have personality. Any of the above?

Find me any popular conservative media pundit who stares blankly at the screen like Olby... he's a horrible host. The only reason he's popular is because whoever writes his hate speech does a very good job.

Thorgrim · 01-12-2007, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Watch say Stewart, O'Rielly, Hannity/Colmes, any other person... they do things like I don't know, improv.. move their heads.. um.. pretend to have personality. Any of the above?

Find me any popular conservative media pundit who stares blankly at the screen like Olby... he's a horrible host. The only reason he's popular is because whoever writes his hate speech does a very good job.

Hannity has personality? He just sticks to his talking points and barely acknowledges another person is there, Orly is just a bully who over the years has become good at it

Stewart has personality, but he's a comedian...he runs a comedy show...

So, all pundits who are not professional comedians...

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Hannity has personality? He just sticks to his talking points and barely acknowledges another person is there, Orly is just a bully who over the years has become good at it

Stewart has personality, but he's a comedian...he runs a comedy show...

So, all pundits who are not professional comedians...

Hannity has far more personality than Olby. Your negative opinions of people's personalities and political beliefs doesn't mean they're not far superior behind a camera lens. The fact that you'd go so far to defend Olby's lack of skill shows how far liberals will go to defend their pundits.

Hannity sticks to talking points.. Hmm.. I don't know who that reminds me.. Olby anyone?
Orly is a bully... Hmm.. who does that remind me of.. Olby anyone?

At least they can move their eyes and heads when they talk and they're willing engage in debate/conversation with people. 100% of his show is read off a teleprompter. He has little to no views of his own. He has no personality. All he does is spit out talking points and bully people... without giving them a chance to defend themselves or give counter points. He's a liberal hack.

At least with Hannity and Orly you get counter opinion and debate. Olby is just one-sided completely biased nonsense spoon fed to people who don't want to think for themselves.