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Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

At least with Hannity and Orly you get counter opinion and debate. Olby is just one-sided completely biased nonsense spoon fed to people who don't want to think for themselves.

"shut up! shut up! you're a moron, you're a nutcase, you're a traitor! cut his mike!"

yep, counter opinion and debate.

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

"shut up! shut up! you're a moron, you're a nutcase, you're a traitor! cut his mike!"

yep, counter opinion and debate.

Ever watch his show? I rarely watch him. Saw him maybe a handful of times. But from what I've heard he hasn't cut anyone's mic in a long time. And the only time he did it was when his guests were talking over him and not allowing him to counter talk.

Some people need to be told they're a moron. Olby does it all the time. At least O'Rielly does it to their faces and allows them to defend themselves and prove otherwise.

Thorgrim · 01-12-2007, 02:32 PM

Orly talking over people and chaging the topic at will is not a real "debate" the only time he tried a real debate was on Russert's show and even then he had to make personal attacks on Krugman and Krugman had to ask Russert to moderate...

Hannity trying to use charm while he stuffs his talking points is only "entertaining" at best, not informative or a valuable use of time

KO...who is to say he doesn't write his own material and he likes talking serious about...serious issues

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Ever watch his show? I rarely watch him. Saw him maybe a handful of times. But from what I've heard he hasn't cut anyone's mic in a long time. And the only time he did it was when his guests were talking over him and not allowing him to counter talk.

Some people need to be told they're a moron. Olby does it all the time. At least O'Rielly does it to their faces and allows them to defend themselves and prove otherwise.

I'll wait for the time Bush does an interview with anyone outside of Fox News.

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Orly talking over people and chaging the topic at will is not a real "debate" the only time he tried a real debate was on Russert's show and even then he had to make personal attacks on Krugman and Krugman had to ask Russert to moderate...

Hannity trying to use charm while he stuffs his talking points is only "entertaining" at best, not informative or a valuable use of time

KO...who is to say he doesn't write his own material and he likes talking serious about...serious issues

Complaining about their debating style doesn't mean they don't debate, nor does it mean they have less skill than Olby behind a camera. If it were Olby on stage overpowering somebody you'd be all for it. But you'll never see that because he's too much of a hack and a coward to actually allow counter opinion on his show.

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Complaining about their debating style doesn't mean they don't debate. If it were Olby on stage overpowering somebody you'd be all for it. But you'll never see that because he's too much of a hack and a coward to actually allow counter opinion on his show.

hack?

Oh I see.. maybe he should invite people on the show, insult them then kick them off?

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

I'll wait for the time Bush does an interview with anyone outside of Fox News.

You're comparing Bush to a someone in news media? Bush is the president. You can understand why Bush's speeches are scripted and set up in advance.

Olby is not president and isn't subject to the same expectations. Try comparing him to others in his field and you'll see he ranks at the very bottom in terms of skill at their job. The only reason he has ratings is because his producers write some very good hate speech for him to spew to people who don't want counter opinion.

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

hack?

Oh I see.. maybe he should invite people on the show, insult them then kick them off?

No, maybe he should have some skill at his job... period. He has none. The fact that you guys are insulting conservatives rather than even attempting to defend him shows my point is probably correct.

I agree completely. O'Rielly is an idiot. Hannity is a douchcanoe. But Olby is by far the worst of everyone in the field in terms of skill at their job. He's a radio guy. He sucks on camera. He's annoying to watch.

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

You're comparing Bush to a someone in news media? Bush is the president. You can understand why Bush's speeches are scripted and set up in advance.

Olby is not president and isn't subject to the same expectations. Try comparing him to others in his field and you'll see he ranks at the very bottom in terms of skill at their job. The only reason he has ratings is because his producers write some very good hate speech for him to spew to people who don't want counter opinion.

You made a point about him not adressing people in person.. his latest comments have been to Bush.

so again, even thinking outside of Olberman... when was the last non Fox News interview with Bush?

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

No, maybe he should have some skill at his job... period. He has none. The fact that you guys are insulting conservatives rather than even attempting to defend him shows my point is probably correct.

I agree completely. O'Rielly is an idiot. Hannity is a douchcanoe. But Olby is by far the worst of everyone in the field.

Worse than Hannity? Savage?

Are you serious?

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

Worse than Hannity? Savage?

Are you serious?

Savage has a television show? And yes, he's far worse than Hannity, Colmes, Carlson, Blizter, O'Rielly, etc etc. How can you even compare them. Ignore their political ideologies and just go by their skill at their job. Olbermann is the worst on TV.

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Olbermann is the worst on TV.

And I completely disagree... debating this fact will get us nowhere.

Stylerod · 01-12-2007, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Pro Street

And I completely disagree... debating this fact will get us nowhere.

Does Olbermann ever have anyone on his show to debate?

If not, he has a job any of us could do. Stand there and read what to say. Must be tough...

Pro Street · 01-12-2007, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Does Olbermann ever have anyone on his show to debate?

If not, he has a job any of us could do. Stand there and read what to say. Must be tough...

I don't consider it a debate show.

Hardball is, Countdown isn't.

Scrum · 01-12-2007, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

Does Olbermann ever have anyone on his show to debate?

That's not the format of the show.

Thorgrim · 01-12-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

Complaining about their debating style doesn't mean they don't debate, nor does it mean they have less skill than Olby behind a camera. If it were Olby on stage overpowering somebody you'd be all for it. But you'll never see that because he's too much of a hack and a coward to actually allow counter opinion on his show.

I guess one could consider slapping your wife around while you argue with her still a debate since you're still debating an issue, I don't think I'd call it a "real debate"

And after your speculation and insults to KO, simply put

His ratings are up, Orlys are down

JaJae · 01-12-2007, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I guess one could consider slapping your wife around while you argue with her still a debate since you're still debating an issue, I don't think I'd call it a "real debate"

Why do you even bother sometimes?

And after your speculation and insults to KO, simply put

His ratings are up, Orlys are down

I know his ratings are up. I'm not saying he doesn't have viewers. I'm saying he sucks as a televised broadcaster. He's horrible. I've said time and time again in this thread, the only reason he's popular is because someone writes plenty of hate speech for him that seems popular with a large percentage of Americans.

Scrum · 01-12-2007, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I've said time and time again in this thread, the only reason he's popular is because someone writes plenty of hate speech for him that seems popular with a large percentage of Americans.

You sure he doesn't write his own materiel?

Edit - and do you realize you just said he's only popular because many people like him and what he says?

Thorgrim · 01-12-2007, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by JaJae

I'm not saying he doesn't have viewers. I'm saying he sucks as a televised broadcaster. He's horrible. I've said time and time again in this thread, the only reason he's popular is because someone writes plenty of hate speech for him that seems popular with a large percentage of Americans.

I'd say the same thing about orly, giving someone points for being a bully is a subjective self-serving argument