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Old 01-12-2007, 03:56 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by avsp View Post
Are politicos, of either side, who've 'broken ranks' & sided against party lines to be cited as proof of the wisdom of any course of action?

Or does it really indicate the nature of the problems faced in Iraq?

Without saying who is right or wrong, it suggests a consideration of what is truly best for the conflict and the Nation over party politics. The country's safty and future matters most. Not what makes Bush look good or bad in the eyes of his critics or supporters.
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:56 PM   #62
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
You sure he doesn't write his own materiel?

Edit - and do you realize you just said he's only popular because many people like him and what he says?
Yes... it has absolutely nothing to do with his skill as a broadcaster. His producers made him popular. That's my point. You can be a successful actress without any skill... same goes for broadcasting. If your message is something people are willing to accept, it goes beyond your skill as a broadcaster. I've never said he's failed at his job, I said he has no skill as a televised broadcaster.

The show would be even more popular if you sock puppets up there bashing Bush and the GOP for an hour. It has nothing ot do with his "charisma" or peresonality (or lack thereof)
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:04 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Yes... it has absolutely nothing to do with his skill as a broadcaster. His producers made him popular. That's my point. You can be a successful actress without any skill... same goes for broadcasting. If your message is something people are willing to accept, it goes beyond your skill as a broadcaster. I've never said he's failed at his job, I said he has no skill as a televised broadcaster.

The show would be even more popular if you sock puppets up there bashing Bush and the GOP for an hour. It has nothing ot do with his "charisma" or peresonality (or lack thereof)
What you are talking about is very subjective.


You don't like him so you say he has no skill.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:29 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
What you are talking about is very subjective.


You don't like him so you say he has no skill.
That pretty much sums it up for them.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 05:56 PM   #65
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Working in the military standard of 8 hours shifts, that means a whopping 5,000 additional troops will be on the ground at a given time.
since when has the military standard been 8 hour shifts?
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:05 PM   #66
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since when has the military standard been 8 hour shifts?

ok, so what shifts will they be? 12? 16? either way, nice to know an increase in let's say 10,000 at most at a given time will affect a city of 2.6 million.

it's funny when 4 times that amount are used to patrol NYC
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:07 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by Pro Street View Post
ok, so what shifts will they be? 12? 16? either way, nice to know an increase in let's say 10,000 at most at a given time will affect a city of 2.6 million.

it's funny when 4 times that amount are used to patrol NYC
you of all people should know that patrols are not ran like a 9-5 schedule, so are you think we should send more troops?
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:13 PM   #68
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
you of all people should know that patrols are not ran like a 9-5 schedule, so are you think we should send more troops?

I know they're not, I'm trying to make a point to show that the forces are extremely small.

and I've already said.. if you want a plan like this to work, you need to have somewhere around 100,000 additional troops.

Unfortunately we don't have those numbers. We're still raping the military and NG with 4 tours at times.
 
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Old 01-12-2007, 06:37 PM   #69
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I know they're not, I'm trying to make a point to show that the forces are extremely small.

and I've already said.. if you want a plan like this to work, you need to have somewhere around 100,000 additional troops.

Unfortunately we don't have those numbers. We're still raping the military and NG with 4 tours at times.
you don't think a force that large will turn everyone against us?
 
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Old 01-13-2007, 02:27 AM   #70
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you don't think a force that large will turn everyone against us?
No, not the ones that aren't fighting in the civil war.
 
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