Democrats Scrambling To Organize Voter Turnout Top Democrats are increasingly concerned that they lack an effective plan to turn out voters this fall, creating tension among party leaders and prompting House Democrats to launch a fundraising effort aimed exclusively at mobilizing Democratic partisans. doesn't this seem to be an issue ...
08-03-2006, 10:44 AM
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| Banned  Conservative Government is another way to say Better Than You 
| Democrats Scrambling To Organize Voter Turnout Democrats Scrambling To Organize Voter Turnout Top Democrats are increasingly concerned that they lack an effective plan to turn out voters this fall, creating tension among party leaders and prompting House Democrats to launch a fundraising effort aimed exclusively at mobilizing Democratic partisans. doesn't this seem to be an issue for the democrats everytime election season rolls around? | ||||
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08-03-2006, 10:47 AM
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| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz We lose in money, technology, GOTV, organization
The one thing we win in, everytime, is that more people in America for Democrats than Republicans...every year | ||||
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08-03-2006, 11:36 AM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Yet they dont bother to vote or they are registered as Dems but vote for Republicans.
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08-03-2006, 11:43 AM
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| Originally Posted by Diesel66 No, they vote Democrat...its just that the States are setup so that the GOP gets an edge because the big states are more likely to be blue, Texas is the exception
Also, districts are gerrymandered to help the GOP if everything was completely fair, the Dems would have taken back Congress in 2004 despite a Kerry loss | ||||
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08-03-2006, 12:38 PM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim Nope. Registered democrats out number registered republicans. But on vote day, the Republicans come out to vote consistantly while the Dems do not.
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08-03-2006, 12:52 PM
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| Democratic Candidates: 94,965,901 (50.16% of the two-party vote) Republican Candidates: 94,369,075 (49.84% of the two-party vote) CNN.com Election 2004 - U.S. Senate http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2002/pages/results/senate/ http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/pages/results/senate/ Simple math, they should control the Senate because they have more than 50% When it comes to the house, everyone knows Texas and other states gerrymandered to maximize GOP districts, Dems have been more fair, in states like Cali they gave Dems and GOPers districts where each would get 60%+ of the vote, when they could have gained more seats by gerrymandering more and getting 53-55+ and picking up maybe 5+ seats Again, if you add up all the house votes, and all the democratic house votes from 2004, Dems got more votes | ||||
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08-03-2006, 01:06 PM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim that is some fuzzy math
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08-03-2006, 01:20 PM
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| Originally Posted by kinggovernor addition is funny math?
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08-03-2006, 02:48 PM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim because they have over 50% of the total vote means nothing. Does it matter that Chuck Schumer gets 85% or 95% of the vote? No he won, that is enough
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08-03-2006, 03:09 PM
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| Originally Posted by kinggovernor
 You didn't use any of that math of yours to direct artillery, did you? | ||||
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08-03-2006, 06:02 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Thorgrim
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08-03-2006, 06:39 PM
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| We are talking about addition to get to 50%, what it gods name does that have to do with getting a super-majority or getting some higher percentage? Saying "oh so they get over 50% of the vote, who cares" that violates every democratic principle i can think of in any elections except the EC and we weren't talking about the presidential election In congress, if you get 50%+1vote, you win Democrats get 50%+1vote in both Senatorial Races and Congressional Races, hence if things were fair, the Democrats would ALREADY control Congress | ||||
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08-03-2006, 08:31 PM
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| ipsa Scientia Potestas est  Pragmatist North Carolina
| Aren't most districts gerrymandered one way or another? | ||||
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08-03-2006, 08:34 PM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim it seems you have a problem with the electoral system
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08-03-2006, 10:34 PM
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| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz No I have a problem with GOP state assemblies gerrymandering their states, combined with the fact that all these rural unpopulated states get over-representation in the Senate...and House for that matter
its not the system...i mean if we just were able to get dems to move around, we'd have won congress and senate even in 2004 | ||||
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08-03-2006, 10:36 PM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim or if you could get them to vote
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08-03-2006, 11:03 PM
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| Originally Posted by ballz2wallz they do vote...its just California gets 2 senators and Wyoming gets 2
Look how this representation works, the smallest 5 states: 46 South Dakota 775,933 47 Alaska 663,661 48 North Dakota 636,677 49 Vermont 623,050 50 Wyoming 509,294 They all get 1 rep Delaware Blue State gets what? 843,524 people 1 rep in Cali 500,000 people 1 rep in Nebraska Big States, almost all Blue, you get ripped off for voters=reps | ||||
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08-03-2006, 11:07 PM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim We are a republic not a democracy. It doesnt matter how many votes a Congressmen gets, 1 more then the competition is enough.
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08-03-2006, 11:42 PM
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| America Fuck Yea Election Moderator Republican In Name Only
| Originally Posted by Diesel66 its simple math
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08-03-2006, 11:43 PM
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| we aren't talking about a particular congressmen, we are just saying if you add all the votes for all democrats in Congress up, they outweigh republicans...aka there are more DEMOCRATS WHO ACTUALLY VOTE than REPUBLICANS WHO ACTUALLY VOTE No, both parties don't get fucked because more state legislators are controlled by republicans...if people are voting for Democrats more than Republicans, and they dont control either chamber, then its the Democrats who are getting fucked | ||||
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