The Jimmy Carter flap - Page 2

kinggovernor · 01-13-2007, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Ah, so because we're not talking about "race" that clarifies your point? It's still segregation based on cultural traits and looks.

it is based upon security issues

kinggovernor · 01-13-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I didn't know there was a definite science on what constituted a race and what didn't...who is the final authority, what were the parameters of the study that made the determination, where is the dividing point?

are palestinians a different race than the arabs living in Israel?

ballz2wallz · 01-13-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I didn't know there was a definite science on what constituted a race and what didn't...who is the final authority, what were the parameters of the study that made the determination, where is the dividing point?

kinggovernor · 01-13-2007, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

and that isn't considered trolling

Thorgrim · 01-13-2007, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Except all the Muslim Israelis living in peace and harmony in Israel completely ruins any accusation of segregation based on those factors.

So all muslims in the west bank and gaza given substandard care, the hundreds of thousands of them, are all hostile enemies?

Thorgrim · 01-13-2007, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

are palestinians a different race than the arabs living in Israel?

Jews who live in Iran, Ethiopia and Sweden all look very different, yet any day in Israel they could come together as Israeli Jews...and most people would think all 3 were different races...and who is to say they are wrong?

kinggovernor · 01-13-2007, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So all muslims in the west bank and gaza given substandard care, the hundreds of thousands of them, are all hostile enemies?

yes

kinggovernor · 01-13-2007, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Jews who live in Iran, Ethiopia and Sweden all look very different, yet any day in Israel they could come together as Israeli Jews...and most people would think all 3 were different races...and who is to say they are wrong?

that didn't answer my question at all

ballz2wallz · 01-13-2007, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

So all muslims in the west bank and gaza given substandard care, the hundreds of thousands of them, are all hostile enemies?

Are you suggesting all Muslims in Israel are provided substandard care? Or are you suggesting that the West Bank and Gaza are now Israeli territory? Or, are you admitting that Israel is taking such precautions to control hostile enemies?

If you answer no to all of those, then your statement makes no sense whatsoever.

Thorgrim · 01-13-2007, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by kinggovernor

that didn't answer my question at all

I don't think northern lebanese christians, north african sunnis, and southeastern iraqi shias would all be identified as the same race, even if they all met in Israel and some would call them all Arabs

Thorgrim · 01-13-2007, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by ballz2wallz

Are you suggesting all Muslims in Israel are provided substandard care? Or are you suggesting that the West Bank and Gaza are now Israeli territory? Or, are you admitting that Israel is taking such precautions to control hostile enemies?

If you answer no to all of those, then your statement makes no sense whatsoever.

Yes, in general
Yes, Israel occupies Palestinian land
Yes, they are taking precautions just like the whites in South Africa did against the blacks there

Diamond Cross · 01-13-2007, 10:39 PM

There you have it. All of Israel is occupied Palestinian land and Israel shouldn't exist.

kinggovernor · 01-14-2007, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Yes, in general
Yes, Israel occupies Palestinian land
Yes, they are taking precautions just like the whites in South Africa did against the blacks there

isn't not their land if someone else has control of it

RMNIXON · 01-14-2007, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

Jews who live in Iran, Ethiopia and Sweden all look very different, yet any day in Israel they could come together as Israeli Jews...and most people would think all 3 were different races...and who is to say they are wrong?

I would say Israel has the right to say who they consider Jews. We are talking about people being murdred and driven out all over the world for just being that in some peoples opinion!

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot · 01-16-2007, 01:21 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Carter Center advisers resign over book - CNN.com

Jesus Christ. Another example that criticizing the Israeli's is a no-no here in Israel Jr. Sure, they don't bomb shit and protest in the streets but they cry just the same. Carter's contention that Israel practices full blown apartheid towards the Palestinians is 150% correct. Not sure what the issue is here?

Carter was one of the worst Presidents we ever had! The fool is a useless lying , hypocrite running around the world cozying up to our enemies. I think the worthless piece of horseshit should be put in jail.
On top of that he is gullible as all hell.
Just a fool waiting to be fooled.-TZS

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot · 01-17-2007, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

Carter was one of the worst Presidents we ever had! The fool is a useless lying , hypocrite running around the world cozying up to our enemies. I think the worthless piece of horseshit should be put in jail.
On top of that he is gullible as all hell.
Just a fool waiting to be fooled.-TZS

Worth posting again seeing as how now Carter is proclaiming himself some kind of new spiritual leader for the Southern Baptists
Seems Carter and Clinton have decided that the Baptists are too harsh ,too judgemental. They are to set out to reform the Baptists!-

What a hoot , two ex-presidential fools proclaiming themselves new age spiritual leaders!
Hell its funny and sad at the same time!
TZS-