Cnn/dobbs: W Fulfills His Dad's Dream Of a New World Order

[MKULTRA]

The Federal Reserve was put into power in 1913. Does that mean it no longer exists? They shipped out golds for decades, fortunes worth. I sourced you to that because it is congressional testimony. But I have to remember I'm talking to one of you that actually believed congress having the power to coin money meant literal coins only lol. I'm talking to the same genius who didn't know what the BBC was And what major media outlet isn't a government propaganda mill? There isn't one. But if I post a mainstream source you'll say it's a propaganda mill and if I post an alternative source it's a CT site, not that you know the difference anyways.

So now diesel is admitting the government takes land using eminent domain and you still have 7960 in denial. Which is it fellas? But again, I'm dealing with someone so ignorant that he believes they're going to build the largest superhighway in the world without using eminent domain. I've sourced you to the official site admitting they use eminent domain. I've sourced you to the 06 icon article admitting they're using eminent domain. But that is just the level of willful, intentional, ignorance that people out there have. They would rather side with a group of political elites than their fellow countrymen. What really insults me is you people wrap it all in a U.S. flag made in China and pawn yourselves off as patriotic. That I think, is the most pathetic thing.

And Diesel, I've already sourced you to a mainstream news article admitting they use Chinese slave labor in these camps. China is pretty brazen about all of this. They're currently slaughtering Tibetans off in public executions.



But this will go on forever. I'll post link after link, you'll deny. You'll change your story and then reply with witty comments like 'false' in bold letters lmao... oh wow.. well that settles it doesn't it? Americans are charged interest on their own currency and we are using a fiat currency. The 9% is nothing compared to all of the gold they've shipped out. I've already shown you that. But let's take it from one of the most powerful bankers in history. But I'm sure you fellas know more than him on banking right?

"Give me control of a nation's money
and I care not who makes her laws"
Meyer Rothschild


And I can keep sourcing you to more articles and you'll keep demanding sources while supplying none of your own and then claiming I didn't link you to anything, when I've linked more than both of you put together in this thread(easily) and not just random links, it has been in response to your questions.

7960 I've sourced you to the TXDOT website admitting they're taking land for these superhighways. I linked you to the page. Are they a 'CT site' too? What is wrong with you? Seriously. And Diesel, you sit here and defend the Chinese government and claim you're a conservative? WTF? Then you defend big government land grabs and then run around posting with a 'Do Not Tread on Me' in your avatar... amazing

[Rouger2]

We are losing our country because of the giant trade deficit it is like a giant IOU that we have to pay for with our assets We never had a deficit with Mexico until Nafta now it is huge but Canada's is much greater.

[7960]

Originally Posted by MKULTRA

So now diesel is admitting the government takes land using eminent domain and you still have 7960 in denial. Which is it fellas? But again, I'm dealing with someone so ignorant that he believes they're going to build the largest superhighway in the world without using eminent domain. I've sourced you to the official site admitting they use eminent domain. I've sourced you to the 06 icon article admitting they're using eminent domain.

PLEASE LINK TO A PERSON WHO'S HAD HIS HOUSE TAKEN BY EMINENT DOMAIN FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING THIS HIGHWAY.


For something that's "common knowledge" and "so clear" why can't you do this? The only example you gave had NOTHING to do with this highway.

[Diesel66]

Originally Posted by MKULTRA

The Federal Reserve was put into power in 1913. Does that mean it no longer exists? They shipped out golds for decades, fortunes worth. I sourced you to that because it is congressional testimony. But I have to remember I'm talking to one of you that actually believed congress having the power to coin money meant literal coins only lol.

wtf ????

I'm talking to the same genius who didn't know what the BBC was And what major media outlet isn't a government propaganda mill? There isn't one.

BBC= govt broadcasting. Sorry but govt broadcasting is automatically lower then any private network.

the most pathetic thing.

And Diesel, I've already sourced you to a mainstream news article admitting they use Chinese slave labor in these camps. China is pretty brazen about all of this. They're currently slaughtering Tibetans off in public executions.

You posted a link that says there are slaves in camps. THAT DOESNT MEAN SHIT THOUGH.

Our goods arent made in slave labor camps, they are made in privatly owned factories.

[MKULTRA]

I've already linked you to the Txdot website admitting they're using eminent domain to take land for this. I'm the only one producing links and you two aren't paying any attention to them anyways. TXdots admits it. It's openly admitted by the government. Do you understand that? Eminent domain is being used. You are wrong. Deal and move on. I'll believe my own eyes and Txdot on this matter before I believe you.

And the Chinese, their public executions, and their work camps are not secret. They have millions in these and the government works hand in hand with all corporations there. Any corporations operating in China operates under the Chinese government.

Books are written on this frequently

Book Description
China is the only major world power to have entered the twenty-first century with a thriving prison camp network--a frightening, mostly hidden realm known since 1951 as the laogai system. This book, the most comprehensive study of China's prison camps to date, draws from a wide range of primary sources, including many compelling literary documents, to illuminate life inside China's prison camps. Focusing mainly on the second half of the twentieth century, Philip F. Williams and Yenna Wu outline the evolution of the laogai system, construct a vivid picture of prisoners' lives from arrest and interrogation to release, and provide a troubling new perspective on the human rights issues plaguing China.

It's called the laogai system

Unfortunately, enforcement of the MOU thus far has proved largely unsuccessful. In 1998, for example, U.S. customs officials attempted to pursue eight standing requests to visit sights they suspected of manufacturing prison labor products. The Chinese Ministry of Justice, however, refused access on the grounds that Laogai inmates are not technically prisoners, and thus the MOU did not apply.

1 bathroom for 2000 employees

Falun Gong is an excellent group trying to end a lot of the slave labor camps and the torture.

Why the blind support for the Chinese government when you obviously have never been over there or never even looked into this? Is it just a conditioned response to any criticism against government or what? These cotton candy 'conservatives' out there really crack me up.

And I'm gonna stress again that there are legitimate factories in China. But realize we are competing against a lot of child labor in Asia, a lot of workers that are working in unsafe working conditions and people that have to sign 20 year contracts. The playing field is not level. There were no set of rights or rules put in place before we handed over our ability to tariff or not to tariff these people. Now it is all out of our hands and we're seeing unfair tariffs set against Americans, Canadians and Mexicans in regards to Asia. This is why it is vital a country retains the power to set its own tariffs and to decide who and what does or does not enter its borders. The U.S. no longer has that power. It is gone to unelected business elites. That is not freedom. Slavery and unfair tariffs are not free market. And I'm not gonna support the selling out of our ability to decide what does and does not come into our country. I don't care what anyone calls it.

But maybe I should just leave all the facts out this, you guys clearly have. Perhaps I should just start writing crude sentences in really large bold letters?

[7960]

Originally Posted by MKULTRA

I've already linked you to the Txdot website admitting they're using eminent domain to take land for this. I'm the only one producing links and you two aren't paying any attention to them anyways. TXdots admits it. It's openly admitted by the government. Do you understand that? Eminent domain is being used. You are wrong. Deal and move on. I'll believe my own eyes and Txdot on this matter before I believe you.

PUT A FUCKING LINK RIGHT HERE TO SHOW ME WHERE EMINENT DOMAIN WAS USED,
please.

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[motivez]

A public highway is a valid and legitimate use of eminent domain, is it not?

It's when the clause is used by the city to justify taking land from one private owner and giving it to a business to build something for profit that it becomes a problem.. there are times when eminent domain does serve the people, albeit at the expensive of an individual (or several)

[motivez]

Also, please keep it civil and on topic. Do not aim your posts at other members, stick to the discussion and topic at hand.

[7960]

Originally Posted by motivez

Also, please keep it civil and on topic. Do not aim your posts at other members, stick to the discussion and topic at hand.

Honestly I'm trying to but it's difficult when he keeps repeating the lie "I've already linked you to the Txdot website admitting they're using eminent domain to take land for this" when the link he posted showed did not show that....but he keeps saying it over and over. I want a link to someone who lost his/her house by eminent domain for the purpose of buillding this highway (please).

[Pro Street]

Originally Posted by motivez

A public highway is a valid and legitimate use of eminent domain, is it not?

It's when the clause is used by the city to justify taking land from one private owner and giving it to a business to build something for profit that it becomes a problem.. there are times when eminent domain does serve the people, albeit at the expensive of an individual (or several)

Yes, it's been used, was recently used in NoVA for them to widen rt 123 and also 234.

There has only been one case that I know of where a city used eminent domain to remove houses to build a commercial center, and it caused a major uproar to where many places changed laws to protect a loophole from happening.

[Rouger2]

The plans to build that super highway have never been okayed and I think that it will have to go to the voters first, so they could not have used eminent domain, but I am sure they want to be able to use it. We also are no longer on the gold stardard so having gold does not mean a thing we can get rid of all of it.

[MKULTRA]

Phantom, NAFTA appeared in this link and in various others I posted. NAFTA is part of the NAU.

Originally Posted by 7960

Honestly I'm trying to but it's difficult when he keeps repeating the lie "I've already linked you to the Txdot website admitting they're using eminent domain to take land for this" when the link he posted showed did not show that....but he keeps saying it over and over. I want a link to someone who lost his/her house by eminent domain for the purpose of buillding this highway (please).

The funny thing is you ask me for proof but how am I gonna give you that when they haven't started building most of the the highways yet? 99% of this stuff hasn't begun. It just got inked by Perry here in Texas. You claim I haven't linked you to the txdot site? Reality: Not true. TxDOT can only acquire property for transportation facilities that directly benefit users of the corridor. TxDOT cannot acquire property adjacent to the corridor for non-transportation related purposes.

Notice they can 'acquire' property . Read the page. As Diesel pointed out, they've been doing this for a long time. The government has taken land for hwys and roads for a long time now. The reason it is such a big deal now is that they're doing this private developers, like grocery stores, tollers, and car dealerships. Why would Txdot lie to you on this? Explain that to me. Look at this map



Do you believe that is going to be built without the use of eminent domain? Have you ever been involved with government when a road in a city gets expanded? So is there some kind of conspiracy against you now by Txdot, the Supreme court, and by me to deceive you lol? I've given you one example and pro street has given you another.

Supreme court ruling

Wildlife Refuge taken for toll roads

Here is the hwy 26 corridor study

More examples will be available as this gets underway. Some parts of this are as wide as several football fields and it goes all the way through this country.

Source on eminent domain being used across the country for private developers.

What I don't understand is people who claim they're patriots, claim they're conservative, yet automatically feel a need to defend the government without even looking into the matter for themselves. Why blindly support a political party or politician over the people? I do understand if you look at the facts and then reach a decision but it is obvious you have never even bothered to read up on this and you're just taking criticism on this government, which is an ever expanding entity, personal.

Also, Rouger2, as the CNN video I sourced you to shows, these plans have been O.K'd. This will not go to the people. Much of it is not even going to congress.

And as far as these roads and who will maintain them, I've looked into it. It is different with every state and with every contract. Some of the links I gave you show the state has turned over free land for rails, roads, and pipelines. Some of the links show that corporations are paying to build, maintain, and upgrade these toll roads. I know here in Austin they're getting a lot of the land free and they're paying to build and maintain the roads but citizens are paying to upgrade them, like if they need widened. It's a little different everywhere you go.

[7960]

Originally Posted by MKULTRA

The funny thing is you ask me for proof but how am I gonna give you that when they haven't started building most of the the highways yet?

Do you believe that is going to be built without the use of eminent domain?

So were you lying or wrong when you said eminent domain was being used? Becuase now it sure seems like you're talking about the possibility of them using it.

[MKULTRA]

Originally Posted by 7960

So were you lying or wrong when you said eminent domain was being used? Becuase now it sure seems like you're talking about the possibility of them using it.

I've given you two examples now and Pro Street has given you one. WTF are you talking about? I'm saying I cannot link you to a lot of examples yet because most of the major corridors are not being built yet. My statement, that eminent domain is and will be used is correct. The contracts have been signed. These plans are being carried out. Txdot is saying they're gonna use it. The private companies admit it's gonna be used. Common sense and just general understanding of what is going on here dictates it will be used. What do you know that Txdot does not? Why is Txdot lying to us? How do you think they've gonna take all that land and not use eminent domain? I want to hear this, since you just can't seem to admit you're wrong. Why do I have to keep posting the same links to you over and over while you keep asking me for links?