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[Donkey®]

Media Matters - Gibson called Obama's long-known cigarette smoking a "dirty little secret"

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Gibson called Obama's long-known cigarette smoking a "dirty little secret"

Summary: Fox News host John Gibson claimed that Sen. Barack Obama's "dirty little secret" is that he is a cigarette smoker, despite the fact that Obama's cigarette use was, in fact, known during his 2004 Senate campaign. Guest John H. McWhorter claimed that that the reason Obama is "considered such a big deal is simply because he's black." McWhorter added that "if you took away the color of his skin, nobody right now would be paying him any attention."

On the January 17 edition of Fox News' The Big Story, host John Gibson, during a discussion with Manhattan Institute senior fellow John H. McWhorter and Young Democrats of America's Malia Lazu about Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) -- who on January 16 announced his decision to form a presidential exploratory committee -- said: "And [Obama's] team works overtime trying to hide Obama's dirty little secret. He is -- get this -- a cigarette smoker. The point is: What else do we not know about Barack Obama?" Despite Gibson's claim that Obama's smoking is "a dirty little secret," Obama told the Chicago Tribune in December 2005 that his smoking is "an ongoing battle," and his cigarette use was, in fact, known during his 2004 Senate campaign, when his wife told the Chicago Sun-Times that he smokes "about three Marlboros a day."

The conversation also featured a comment by McWhorter that the reason Obama is "considered such a big deal is simply because he's black." McWhorter added that "if you took away the color of his skin, nobody right now would be paying him any attention." At the end of the discussion, McWhorter, who is himself black, said that "[i]t's almost like he's mammy," a reference to a caricature of blacks as "contented, even happy, as slaves," according to The Jim Crow Museum at Ferris State University. Gibson did not respond to McWhorter's "mammy" remark. McWhorter's comments about Obama's race as a factor in the campaign echoed those made in a January 17 editorial in the Manchester, New Hampshire, Union Leader, which asked if Obama would "get affirmative action," as Media Matters for America noted.

Gibson also asked: "The question is would you vote for a smoker as president? John, is that kind of -- is that an impediment?" At one point in the discussion, an on-screen graphic showed a picture of Obama in front of the White House, smiling next to two packs of Marlboro cigarettes with the question: "Would you vote for a smoker as president?" After Gibson asked if Obama's smoking would be an "impediment," Lazu answered that "I think Americans will be happy that his vice doesn't lead him to pages or to choking his mistress," apparently in reference to scandals that plagued former Republican Reps. Mark Foley (FL) and Don Sherwood (PA).

As the weblog News Hounds noted, the January 10 edition of Fox News' Fox and Friends hosted a discussion on January 10 in which PoliticalDerby.com editor Jason Wright predicted "the smoking issue comes back to bite [Obama] in the hindquarters."

The discussion was the most recent in a trend of media figures clinging to past admissions by Obama -- some dating back to 1995 -- in an attempt to dig up dirt that could smear his fledgling campaign.

From the January 17 edition of Fox News' The Big Story with John Gibson:

GIBSON: Meantime, time for "Big Politics." Sure he's young, sure he's charismatic, but what do we really know about Barack Obama? And what does he really stand for? Obama is the kind of presidential hopeful who appeals to the masses. He portrays himself as a political moderate, but he's much more liberal than he says he is. And his team works overtime trying to hide Obama's dirty little secret. He is -- get this -- a cigarette smoker. The point is: What else do we not know about Barack Obama? America seems to love him now, but will we still love him tomorrow? With me now, senior fellow with the Manhattan Institute John McWhorter and Malia Lazu with the Young Democrats of America. John, this guy -- what else do we not know about Barack Obama?

McWHORTER: Well, I don't think that we really know a whole lot about Barack Obama at all that you would really call distinctive. He's said some very nice things and he says them well. But if you ask me, the reason that we're looking at somebody who is such an inexperienced senator, who has said some very pleasant but not especially sterling or innovative things, the reason that he's considered such a big deal is simply because he's black. That doesn't mean that he's not smart. That doesn't mean that he isn't good. But if you took away the color of his skin, nobody right now would be paying him any attention. And that's just to say that we don't know yet and we don't know him just because he has brown skin and a touching story.

GIBSON: Malia, if he were exactly the same person, but he were white, would we -- same resumé, same bio, same, you know, excellent speaking manner, but he wasn't black -- would he be a presidential hopeful at this point?

LAZU: I'm not sure. I think that race plays a role into this. But I think what Obama does more than his amazing speaking ability is he's able to connect with voters. And it's that hope that he brings out in American citizens that we are all hungry for, that people get excited about Senator Obama. And yes, he may have a habit that millions of Americans want to -- want to quit. We all know people who want to quit smoking. But the real question here is that America is ready for a change, and are traditional politicians going to be able to answer that call?

GIBSON: Malia, I'm glad you brought it up. Let me put something up on the screen, "Obama Behind Closed Doors." You never see him smoke. You never see a pack of cigarettes in his pocket. The question is, would you vote for a smoker as president? John, is that kind of -- is that an impediment?

McWHORTER: I really don't think it is because it depends on the person. And Obama is seen as very, very cool. I think a lot of people find him sexy. And I think even in today's America, there's a sense that there's something vaguely sexy about cigarettes; you've got fire in your hand. So to tell you the truth, I think it will only help.

LAZU: I think Americans -- I think Americans will be happy that his vice doesn't lead him to pages or to choking his mistress. I mean, all humans have vice, and he has one. But what Americans want is they want a change and they want that hope that Obama sparks in people.

GIBSON: You know, the only problem I have with this, John, is if it were that easy a barrier for him to overcome, why is he so determined to make sure nobody ever sees him with a cigarette in his hand?

McWHORTER: Well, to tell you the truth, knowing that he does it and keeping it secret is even better. To actually see the so-called filthy habit would be different. But it's that little thing that he kind of does behind closed doors.

GIBSON: Let me put this up on the screen, Obama's formula for success. He has a moderate image, but he has one of the, if not the, most liberal voting record in the Senate. Malia, is that part of the secret of his success, is actually obscuring his liberal voting record?

LAZU: I don't think that Obama has obscured his liberal voting record. I think Obama has put out two books that lay out who he is and what he stands for. He has been very public about who he is and what he stands for, and the American people like that. And I think that we need to understand that Americans want to hear true talk, and that's what Obama does.

GIBSON: How liberal is he, John?

McWHORTER: Well, frankly, he is a standard-issue leftist that you would expect of somebody with his particular experience, and he doesn't exactly hide it. But it's true, and somehow we like to think that he represents some sort of hope of bringing us all together anyway. And that means that somehow he's going to bring together the Michael Moores and the Grover Norquists and everybody in between. And, again, I think the only reason that looks plausible is because we see something about his being brown that creates that. It's almost like he's mammy. And it kind of worries me.

GIBSON: John McWhorter and Malia Lazu, thanks very much. Appreciate it, both of you.

LAZU: Thank you.

Absolutely pathetic if you ask me. I guess somehow smoking is considered "bad" and DUIs + cocaine snorting = good.

[Pro Street]

It's only the beginning

[DosEquis]

...just wow

But But... HE SMOKES! And his name is one letter from OSAMA! Have you heard his middle name for jesus's sake!

[Galactic Gigolo]

Jesus Christ

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Absolutely pathetic if you ask me. I guess somehow smoking is considered "bad" and DUIs + cocaine snorting = good.

Didn't Obama admit to cocaine use as well? I think he did.

the smoking bit is ridiculous though

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Phantom

Didn't Obama admit to cocaine use as well? I think he did.

the smoking bit is ridiculous though

As a teen. I would think that the whole "teens experiment with things" covered that. Bush...Bush wasn't a teen experimenting.

[Phantom]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

As a teen. I would think that the whole "teens experiment with things" covered that. Bush...Bush wasn't a teen experimenting.

I really don't care either way. As long as they are not on the drug now and haven't been for awhile, it really makes no difference to me.

[Dumpy Dooby]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

As a teen. I would think that the whole "teens experiment with things" covered that. Bush...Bush wasn't a teen experimenting.

For a decision like that, age doesn't matter. An adult would be just as curious as a teen. But the law itself is ridiculous, and judging someone based on whether or not they smoke cigarettes, use drugs, drink alcohol, smoke pole, etc. is just plain immature. The only thing that seems to be more pathetic is the fact that this comes from Media Matters.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby

The only thing that seems to be more pathetic is the fact that this comes from Media Matters.

So that is more pathetic that that shit Fox did? Come on man....

[Dumpy Dooby]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

So that is more pathetic that that shit Fox did? Come on man....

It's a viewer-based site that that focuses on finding conservative opinion shows and attacking the validity of the opinions expressed by the individuals on those shows, regardless of the fact that conservativism and liberalism in America are two completely polar views and are expected to be fundamentally different.

Yeah, that's pretty pathetic.

[Donkey®]

Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby

It's a viewer-based site that that focuses on finding conservative opinion shows and attacking the validity of the opinions expressed by the individuals on those shows, regardless of the fact that conservativism and liberalism in America are two completely polar views and are expected to be fundamentally different.

Yeah, that's pretty pathetic.

And what is FOX? Let's look at this picture again.




What's next? Post his face in front of some scud missiles?

[RMNIXON]

Isn't he a helpless victim of the Tobacco companies or something?


The sad part is he must hide from the cameras every time he lights up! That's a long way from this:

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

So that is more pathetic that that shit Fox did? Come on man....

Did FOX create the anal-retentive sensitivity to smoking.

[Dumpy Dooby]

Originally Posted by Donkey®

And what is FOX?

Fox is a sister distributor of Fox News, which is also a distributor. If you're suggesting that Fox News has a conservative bias, then the point of my post must have escaped you.

Let's look at this picture again.




What's next? Post his face in front of some scud missiles?

... did you just compare cigarettes to scud missiles?

[DosEquis]

He has to be in the back pocket of the big tobacco lobby

[Diamond Cross]

I personally would rather not have a President that smokes, but this is just a bunch of bullshit.

Attacking Obama on it that is.

If it were Marijuana I would not vote for him at all.

[Scrum]

Originally Posted by Diamond Cross

I personally would rather not have a President that smokes

Why? Why would it matter to you?

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent

Why? Why would it matter to you?

Oh shit! I must be honest and agree with you!

[RMNIXON]

Originally Posted by DosEquis

He has to be in the back pocket of the big tobacco lobby

NO! It's Obama Havana!






RED!

[Pro Street]

I don't see how smoking affects his ability to run the country... do you think he'd nuke a country just because he was craving a cig?