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Old 01-22-2007, 09:31 PM   #61
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
You know, at the end of schindler's list, you're not supposed to sit there, tap your chin thoughtfully and go "hmmm...maybe I should start a holocaust?"

Do any basic reading on slavery, or movie on slavery and come and seriously answer that question

You are comparing genocide to slavery ?????????????????



Again answer the question. Why do you personally believe slavery is wrong.
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel66 View Post
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You are comparing genocide to slavery ?????????????????



Again answer the question. Why do you personally believe slavery is wrong.
Because it denegrates your existance to nothing more than a dog

The question is, how could any 21st century human being (or 1st century god) possibly think slavery isn't wrong?
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 10:59 PM   #63
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Because it denegrates your existance to nothing more than a dog
not really. Check out the list of requirments for a master.
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 11:53 PM   #64
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Originally Posted by Diesel66 View Post
not really. Check out the list of requirments for a master.
Jewish law is pretty clear that you are allowed to rape your slaves, Jesus did not object to it, neither did Paul
 
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:21 AM   #65
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Jewish law is pretty clear that you are allowed to rape your slaves, Jesus did not object to it, neither did Paul



Where did you get that idea ?
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel66 View Post



Where did you get that idea ?
Didn't you go to Sunday school?

Exodus 20:20&21
A master can beat his slave so severely he can't get up for over a day, and that is completely permissable, only if he KILLS THE SLAVE is there any punishment, infact it's so trivial they don't even lay out what the punishment would be

Also, a man is only punished if he rapes a slave girl who was promised to another man, otherwise there is no law against it
BibleGateway.com - Passage*Lookup: Leviticus 19:20-22

If a war party came across a village, a man under jewish law is able to select a girl, and make him his sexual slave and try her out, if after raping her for awhile, finds he does not enjoy her, he can discard not, just not sell her
BibleGateway.com - Passage*Lookup: Deuteronomy 21:10-14

There's much more, but I can guess you're not listening and this is a waste of my time
 
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:25 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Didn't you go to Sunday school?
Why would I go to sunday school ? I am not a Christian.

Also, a man is only punished if he rapes a slave girl who was promised to another man, otherwise there is no law against it
BibleGateway.com - Passage*Lookup: Leviticus 19:20-22
So after all of that you only got one that is close to what you stated ? Nevermind the quote says nothing about rape, merely if a man sleeps with another man's slave.
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel66 View Post
Why would I go to sunday school ? I am not a Christian.



So after all of that you only got one that is close to what you stated ? Nevermind the quote says nothing about rape, merely if a man sleeps with another man's slave.
its clear from that and other passages...like the one below, that a man has sexual rights to his slave, ever hear of a guy named abraham who slept with his slaves?
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
its clear from that and other passages...like the one below, that a man has sexual rights to his slave, ever hear of a guy named abraham who slept with his slaves?
Abraham wasn't raping his slaves.
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
its clear from that and other passages...like the one below, that a man has sexual rights to his slave, ever hear of a guy named abraham who slept with his slaves?
so you went from saying God approves of raping slaves to that ?
 
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Originally Posted by Diesel66 View Post
so you went from saying God approves of raping slaves to that ?
Deuteronomy 21:10-14

That is rape
 
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Old 01-24-2007, 10:10 AM   #73
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Where did this thread go!

Thorgrim took us on some wacky ride through his "knowledge" of the Bible with so much spin and falsehoods that it would make Hannity proud.
 
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If he acted as part of a larger group agenda, then yes he would be. If he is a lone nut, then No. Just a nut! The evidence for this is not what "he" claims!


I would give capital punishment for any deaths involved in either case!

What is your point?


I don't understand?
since when did the definition of a terrorist say there must be >1 people to be considered a terrorist?
 
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since when did the definition of a terrorist say there must be >1 people to be considered a terrorist?
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Old 01-24-2007, 02:51 PM   #76
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Deuteronomy 21:10-14

That is rape
 
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Old 01-24-2007, 03:41 PM   #77
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
Thorgrim took us on some wacky ride through his "knowledge" of the Bible with so much spin and falsehoods that it would make Hannity proud.
Those direct bible links, real spin!

 
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Smilies is all you have to say, I thought you were going to continue your lecture on the morality of slavery
 
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Old 01-24-2007, 04:19 PM   #79
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Smilies is all you have to say, I thought you were going to continue your lecture on the morality of slavery
You say the Bible promotes rape. then you back it up with quotes that have nothing to do with rape


Smileys are more then enough. Anything more and I will get a timeout
 
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When you go to war against your enemies and the LORD your God delivers them into your hands and you take captives, 11 if you notice among the captives a beautiful woman and are attracted to her, you may take her as your wife. 12 Bring her into your home and have her shave her head, trim her nails 13 and put aside the clothes she was wearing when captured. After she has lived in your house and mourned her father and mother for a full month, then you may go to her and be her husband and she shall be your wife. 14 If you are not pleased with her, let her go wherever she wishes. You must not sell her or treat her as a slave, since you have dishonored her.

Please let's get a show of hands of people who think that isn't rape
 
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