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Old 01-22-2007, 12:08 PM   #1
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anyone think there is anything to this "conspiracy" between Obama and Hilary?

That she is the one "behind" all of these "smear" campaigns against Obama

I don't think there is much to it, but it isn't something I'd put past the Clinton's
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:09 PM   #2
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funny how all that noise is coming from a certain area
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:27 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by hsmith View Post
That she is the one "behind" all of these "smear" campaigns against Obama

I don't think there is much to it, but it isn't something I'd put past the Clinton's
I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone who was hoping Hillary wins and is putting out their own smear campaigns, kind of like a Soros or moveon.org or something.

I doubt it's her campaign, but if it is, it'll be very hard to trace. I also doubt she's upset about it.
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:28 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
funny how all that noise is coming from a certain area
What area is that?
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 12:54 PM   #5
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hold on let me get my hat.
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 01:07 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
funny how all that noise is coming from a certain area
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 02:53 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
funny how all that noise is coming from a certain area
Yes, very interesting
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 07:28 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
What area is that?
looks like everyone gets it but you
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:03 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
looks like everyone gets it but you
Care to enlighten me then?
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:06 PM   #10
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What I don't understand is how anyone could take this seriously or not have it figured out that all of this is staged by now. I remember once when I was 13 and got into a serious argument with a grown man who swore to me that WCW wrestling was real. I get the same feeling every time I talk to someone on the internet who thinks that major elections in this country are still real.

This is totally staged. Obama is there to take the fall. The election itself will be totally staged like the last one. I think the last all but scripted debate between FrankenKerry and Jr. should've been enough to wake anyone up but apparently not.
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:10 PM   #11
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maybe this will answer the question for you

Crooks and Liars » CNN Debunks Obama “Madrassa” Smear

urprise, surprise. Despite the right-wing's irresponsible and baseless rumormongering about Hillary Clinton "exposing" Barack Obama's "covered up" childhood at an Indonesian madrassa (where he was presumably indoctrinated in extremist Muslim teachings), it turns out that none of it is even remotely truthful. After checking out the veracity of the story — you know, a basic tenet of Journalism 101 — CNN blows the lid off of what a spokesman for Senator Clinton called "an obvious right-wing hit job."
Download (27) | Play (24) Download (7) | Play (13)

The only thing this story "exposes" is the anatomy of a right-wing hit job: Conservative Insight magazine runs an unverified story that the minions at FOX News then cite to smear politicians they don't like. And when it blows up in their faces, they claim they were just citing a source and wipe their hands clean. That's how right-wing "journalism" works.

CNN.com:
Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam. Insight stood by its story in a response posted on its Web site Monday afternoon.
The Insight article was cited several times Friday on Fox News and was also referenced by the New York Post, The Glenn Beck program on CNN Headline News and a number of political blogs.
Fox News executive Bill Shine told CNN "Reliable Sources" anchor Howard Kurtz that some of the network's hosts were simply expressing their opinions and repeatedly cited Insight as the source of the allegations.
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:16 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
maybe this will answer the question for you

Crooks and Liars » CNN Debunks Obama “Madrassa” Smear

urprise, surprise. Despite the right-wing's irresponsible and baseless rumormongering about Hillary Clinton "exposing" Barack Obama's "covered up" childhood at an Indonesian madrassa (where he was presumably indoctrinated in extremist Muslim teachings), it turns out that none of it is even remotely truthful. After checking out the veracity of the story — you know, a basic tenet of Journalism 101 — CNN blows the lid off of what a spokesman for Senator Clinton called "an obvious right-wing hit job."
Download (27) | Play (24) Download (7) | Play (13)

The only thing this story "exposes" is the anatomy of a right-wing hit job: Conservative Insight magazine runs an unverified story that the minions at FOX News then cite to smear politicians they don't like. And when it blows up in their faces, they claim they were just citing a source and wipe their hands clean. That's how right-wing "journalism" works.

CNN.com:
Insight Magazine, which is owned by the same company as The Washington Times, reported on its Web site last week that associates of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, had unearthed information the Illinois Democrat and likely presidential candidate attended a Muslim religious school known for teaching the most fundamentalist form of Islam. Insight stood by its story in a response posted on its Web site Monday afternoon.
The Insight article was cited several times Friday on Fox News and was also referenced by the New York Post, The Glenn Beck program on CNN Headline News and a number of political blogs.
Fox News executive Bill Shine told CNN "Reliable Sources" anchor Howard Kurtz that some of the network's hosts were simply expressing their opinions and repeatedly cited Insight as the source of the allegations.
I've never even heard of that. Did you search hard to find some unknown smear campaign? Perhaps hsmith needs to clarify which smear tactics he's talking about.

What I did hear is that he used cocaine, and that Hillary is supposedly going to out his Muslim ties. Are those fabrications by the right wing?
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:17 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
I've never even heard of that. Did you search hard to find some unknown smear campaign? Perhaps hsmith needs to clarify which smear tactics he's talking about.

What I did hear is that he used cocaine, and that Hillary is supposedly going to out his Muslim ties. Are those fabrications by the right wing?

no, it was posted 5 minutes ago on c&l
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:18 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz View Post
What I did hear is that he used cocaine,
that didn't stop you from voting for bush
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:20 PM   #15
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
that didn't stop you from voting for bush
that's different though, Bush did coke in his 30s while getting DUIs, Obama was a teenager

Obviously Bush is the more reasonable of the two
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:22 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
that didn't stop you from voting for bush
Did I use that against him?

I didn't care what Bush did back then, and I don't care what Obama did either. Not once have I used that against him.

All I've said was that these were the only things so far said against him; hardly anything from right wing smear sites, aren't they?
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:22 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by SoFlaJDM View Post
no, it was posted 5 minutes ago on c&l
Then it must not be what hsmith was talking about, is it?
 
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Old 01-22-2007, 08:25 PM   #18
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since when are you all about staying on topic?

edit: i was given negative rep by B2W for this post

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Old 01-22-2007, 10:28 PM   #19
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