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Old 01-28-2007, 07:25 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
In the long history of politics, american politics in particular, the liberal position basically always wins out over time when matched with a conservative one, its only a matter of "Are the American people ready?"




Anybody care to read what was being pushed in the 1930's by leftists before the world woke up? Their economic revolution is in tatters! The social revolution keeps slamming into a constant wall of young people who are smart enough to think that personal responcibility matters, and that judgement of personal behavior is not a political crime, or that religious belief is not a sign of stupidity, and that government spending solutions to our social problems are most often snake oil that make things worse.

The class and race baiting was worse in the 70's. People don't buy into it so much anyomore. The economic disasters that they "oh so" wished for in order to impliment their uprising just don't seem to happen. If you were too young to remember the late term Reagan stock market drop was the sign of another depression! And PC has become more of a subject for comics than serious policy. Only the social pathetic want to be speech Nazi's these days. If their dying wish is that we are all heading for some undefined super tolerant liberal ararchist fantasy if we just wait long enough........



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Old 01-28-2007, 07:41 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Donkey® View Post
No party affiliation here and I REFUSE to vote "the lesser of two evils."
I agree.


I vote for the person that is close to my beliefs; if so such candidate is in a race, I don't vote in that race.


"Lesser of two evils" philosophy is complete and utter bullshit.
 
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:39 PM   #23
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Political party lines have...not just dulled, but obliterated the values this country was founded upon. In my opinion, it's comprable to gang wars. They are so intent on being the most powerful, that doing the right thing NEVER comes into play. They are for the most part, unscrupulously dirty and possess an a-moral loyalty to their party.

I'd be willing to bet that a disturbing majority of politicians from both parties haven't read either the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence since their school days...if at all. It really is a pitiful state of affairs.

Isn't the government in this country supposed to REPRESENT the people instead of RULING OVER THEM??? Sickening.
 
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:47 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post



Anybody care to read what was being pushed in the 1930's by leftists before the world woke up? Their economic revolution is in tatters! The social revolution keeps slamming into a constant wall of young people who are smart enough to think that personal responcibility matters, and that judgement of personal behavior is not a political crime, or that religious belief is not a sign of stupidity, and that government spending solutions to our social problems are most often snake oil that make things worse.

The class and race baiting was worse in the 70's. People don't buy into it so much anyomore. The economic disasters that they "oh so" wished for in order to impliment their uprising just don't seem to happen. If you were too young to remember the late term Reagan stock market drop was the sign of another depression! And PC has become more of a subject for comics than serious policy. Only the social pathetic want to be speech Nazi's these days. If their dying wish is that we are all heading for some undefined super tolerant liberal ararchist fantasy if we just wait long enough........


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America took a sharp turn to the left in the 30s...
There is a difference between religiousity and spirituality, the latter is a liberal value that has gained significant traction, that is why we see evangelical christians voting more and more liberal

Paul Volcker, a liberal, was responsible for the recession and its recovery, it was intentional

Speech nazis come from elements outside liberalism


Again, every liberal idea has gone forward
 
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