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Old 01-28-2007, 04:45 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
If you want to believe that what can I say?

This is your proof?


Repeat a shaky story on the morning show in January 2007? Mention it later once or twice on the News broadcast of the day. Retract it. Then Gibson makes a remark in a question on his talk show (who listens?). I never even knew about it until I read your Newsweek Story. Fox needs to do better than that!
They reported it, the host addressed it as fact after the initial sourcing

Proof they only said it once or twice? Or do I have to dig up 30 news clips so you can dismiss those as well?

They "retracted" it, how kind, no apology? what kind of news network does that? the kind that has no values

its pretty hard to continue the smear when everyone has shown they were complete fools for airing it, the most arrogant thing to do would be a little whisper of a retraction and refusal to apologize, that way Obama can't get credit from Fox News for recovering his name after the smear

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Old 01-28-2007, 05:45 PM   #22
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It was said more than once. And if anyone thinks this is an Obama Bash watch the entire segment:


YouTube - F0x accuses Clinton camp of exposing Obama's Muslim past


How casual can you get without Regis?

The final question was "Does this matter?" and call in!


Answer No, I don't care where Obama went to school as a child. Or that his father was a Muslim in Africa and gave him Hussien (a common name) as a middle name. DUH!


Here is a quote from the Chicago Sun Times Editorial (Opinion just like Gibson's radio talk show) of January 22:

"And if Hillary thinks everyone's going to pursue stories about some long-ago madrassah, she has a sweetly touching faith in the American media."

CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Mark Steyn :: Media are gonna Barack around the clock


Now go write a letter!
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Old 01-28-2007, 05:52 PM   #23
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post

They "retracted" it, how kind, no apology? what kind of news network does that? the kind that has no values

Dan Rather has yet to apologize to the President of the United States for producing, investigating, and running a Prime Time Investigative news story, with his name on it, that was a total hoax right before a National Presidential Election. He wont even admit that the story was false to this day, and that suggests to me some type of politcal pathology but I am no expert on the demetia of liberals.
 
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Old 01-28-2007, 06:18 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
They reported it, the host addressed it as fact after the initial sourcing

Gretchen Carlson on Clinton Camp Report by Insight Magazine from your own YOUTUBE Link:

"Allegedly, this is where that's coming from."


al·leged (ə-lĕjd', ə-lĕj'ĭd)
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Represented as existing or as being as described but not so proved; supposed.


 
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Old 01-28-2007, 07:52 PM   #25
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Dan Rather has yet to apologize to the President of the United States for producing, investigating, and running a Prime Time Investigative news story, with his name on it, that was a total hoax right before a National Presidential Election. He wont even admit that the story was false to this day, and that suggests to me some type of politcal pathology but I am no expert on the demetia of liberals.
That story wasn't false. The documents were forged but you guys seem to forget that they have testimony from people who saw the real ones.
 
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:42 PM   #26
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Ok so I can say whatever i want, acting like its a fact, and then somewhere on my show if I say the word "alleged" then everything i said is ok
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 01:02 AM   #27
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Ok so I can say whatever i want, acting like its a fact, and then somewhere on my show if I say the word "alleged" then everything i said is ok
Well... yes.
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:55 AM   #28
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Gretchen Carlson on Clinton Camp Report by Insight Magazine from your own YOUTUBE Link:

"Allegedly, this is where that's coming from."


al·leged (ə-lĕjd', ə-lĕj'ĭd)
adj.
Represented as existing or as being as described but not so proved; supposed.


Mr. Dennit: Ricky, your little obscene gesture is going to cost you 100 points. Do you know how much that costs us in sponsorship dollars?
Ricky: With all due respect, Mr. Dennit, I had no idea you'd gotten experimental surgery to have your balls removed.
Mr. Dennit: What did you just say to me?
Ricky
: What? I said it with all due respect!
Mr. Dennit
: Just because you say that doesn't mean you get to say whatever you want to me!
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Old 01-29-2007, 02:59 AM   #29
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Ok so I can say whatever i want, acting like its a fact, and then somewhere on my show if I say the word "alleged" then everything i said is ok
Of all the alleged global warming, healthcare, Iraq, Bush, social security etc pieces in the mainstream media and none of it matters until something is alleged on Fox about Obama.

No offense, but Newsweek has a very week argument and in printing this article in the way they have, they've shown to have a heavier bias than the story they were attempting to break.
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:05 AM   #30
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Originally Posted by JaJae View Post
Of all the alleged global warming, healthcare, Iraq, Bush, social security etc pieces in the mainstream media and none of it matters until something is alleged on Fox about Obama.

No offense, but Newsweek has a very week argument and in printing this article in the way they have, they've shown to have a heavier bias than the story they were attempting to break.
Thanks for jumping into my thread, and repeating the mantra of the bias liberal media, Newsweek's opinion pieces by Alter are terrible and Fox is getting singled out on this when network news does far worse

A thousand apologies, lord most high, can you forgive this lowly member?
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 03:15 AM   #31
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HAHAHA even better, knew I had seen this one:

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

Little bit of Fox News's tendancy to use question marks (not unlike the word allegedly to spout bs)

edit: yay no longer youtube retarded

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Old 01-29-2007, 06:41 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent View Post
That story wasn't false. The documents were forged but you guys seem to forget that they have testimony from people who saw the real ones.
like who?
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:04 AM   #33
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Originally Posted by motivez View Post
It's amazing to me that some people still refuse to believe that Fox is a conservative mouthpiece.

I mean, the evidence is just so overwhelming. I like when there are montages of Fox News hosts repeating White House talking points verbatim over the course of 2 or 3 days, trying to sell the points.

I'm glad to see that this type of stuff isn't sticking though.

NONE of the American Big Media are non-biased.
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:13 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
NONE of the American Big Media are non-biased.
They all ignore the libertarians, greens and american socialist parties...bastards
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:40 AM   #35
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
They all ignore the libertarians, greens and american socialist parties...bastards

I'm not even talking about that. (Even they don't ignore them )


All of the big Media are owned by huge multi-national corporations that have great interest into what Washington and other governments around the world do. They are all obviously biased. Anyone that doesn't believe that is a fool.
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 10:53 AM   #36
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
I'm not even talking about that. (Even they don't ignore them )


All of the big Media are owned by huge multi-national corporations that have great interest into what Washington and other governments around the world do. They are all obviously biased. Anyone that doesn't believe that is a fool.
People control these corporations, not robots, that's why Murdoch and his crew don't mind pushing a right-wing agenda

Other media, like ABC, CNN to some extent whatever, they push towards info-tainment when they can because it makes more money...any notions of a strong liberal media are foolish because all MSM wasted 2 years of national dialogue to talk about Clinton getting a BJ from a stalking intern, where was the liberal media pushing over issues to get Clinton off the front pages? None, because it doesn't exist

People talk about liberal journalists, pfft, who gets to decide what stories they run, their managing editors, you think they're flaming liberals? CBS (omg big liberals!) have been holding back great stories from Haifa Street Iraq because after 2-3 minutes of their daily Iraq coverage, they feel that's enough and they'd rather run a story on some info-tainment to lighten things up

They've been doing this for years, conservative managers hold back progressive or informative news because it suits their interest
 
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
People control these corporations, not robots, that's why Murdoch and his crew don't mind pushing a right-wing agenda

Other media, like ABC, CNN to some extent whatever, they push towards info-tainment when they can because it makes more money...any notions of a strong liberal media are foolish because all MSM wasted 2 years of national dialogue to talk about Clinton getting a BJ from a stalking intern, where was the liberal media pushing over issues to get Clinton off the front pages? None, because it doesn't exist

People talk about liberal journalists, pfft, who gets to decide what stories they run, their managing editors, you think they're flaming liberals? CBS (omg big liberals!) have been holding back great stories from Haifa Street Iraq because after 2-3 minutes of their daily Iraq coverage, they feel that's enough and they'd rather run a story on some info-tainment to lighten things up

They've been doing this for years, conservative managers hold back progressive or informative news because it suits their interest

Of course you would only think Fox is biased!
 
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Old 01-29-2007, 11:09 AM   #38
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Originally Posted by lew View Post
Of course you would only think Fox is biased!
If you want to be a stickler, yeah they are all bias, but who is to say how they change...ABC was "big liberal media" then they run the anti-Clinton "documentary" full of lies...who is to say the don't have a conservative bias? Finding "liberal bias" is a waste of time and has been for decades

They are interested in money and their primary if not sole interest is greed

Fox breaks the norm, it constantly risks credibility to have 6 out of 8 hours of their prime time coverage being conservative rants, because they figure its hard to get caught and even harder to be held accountable...they're ratings have been slipping as people are tired of creditless ring-wing banter, they've peaked
 
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