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Old 02-02-2007, 08:34 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
It is also the job of the networks themselves to be responcible to viewers. I think the breast flap durring the Super Bowl would have been corrected more by family viewer outrage than anything the FCC did. The network let MTV set that up without more oversite as to what they would do at halftime. And don't get shocked when you invite Howard Stern onto your show either!
Absolutely, but this is something people need to decide for them and thier families not other adults
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:21 AM   #22
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It'll get passed once hillary is president

If people to the left of Ann Coulter are unable to express their views all over the country, while she and her ilk can, its not free speech, its right-wing control of the air waves
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 01:39 PM   #23
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Baloney. It's the opposite way around. The liebrals are not for freedom of speech. Their constant bitching over FOX news and not CNN is the prime example.

Political bias should not be present in news broadcasting anyway, of either conservative or liberal views.
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:22 PM   #24
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Baloney. It's the opposite way around. The liebrals are not for freedom of speech. Their constant bitching over FOX news and not CNN is the prime example.
Huh? Media bias is not a free speech issue.
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:31 PM   #25
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My post was a response to Thorgrims bullshit post.

But yes, media bias is an issue of free speech.

After all, one side does want to control and limit what one side says on the air in favor of themselves.

Liberals want to limit conservative speech and conservatives want to limit liberal speech and when conservative news media publish conservative articles liberals call it media bias and when liberals publish newsmedia articles conservatives call it liberal bias. Yet they never keep their own newsmedia in check for media bias.

Usual partisan bullshit.

The newsmedia job is to report the news, not be preachy and tell people what they should think.

A talk show should be alowed to succeed or fail on its own merits and flaws. A talk show is not the news media but about people expressing their opinions.
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:43 PM   #26
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
It'll get passed once hillary is president

If people to the left of Ann Coulter are unable to express their views all over the country, while she and her ilk can, its not free speech, its right-wing control of the air waves
NPR + Air America

this is nothing more than an attempt to limit free speech
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 02:54 PM   #27
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
NPR + Air America

this is nothing more than an attempt to limit free speech
Air America isn't fair time, it was a small underfunded experiment and doesn't represent ALL the opposing views expressed on right-wing radio, liberals and conservatives agree on some controversial issues, where is the libertarian or socialist voice?

Not that you need 100x voices, but you need 2 sides of every controversial issue

And NPR is such crap, they are like CNN, a good news source but full of right-wing crap, they have so many clowns who do part time work for Fox and show what right-of-center morons they are

You can't just put some liberals with moderates on the radio and go "oh they are just like sean hannity except left-wing"
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 03:04 PM   #28
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
And NPR is such crap, they are like CNN, a good news source but full of right-wing crap,


cnn is now right wing ?
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:11 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Air America isn't fair time, it was a small underfunded experiment and doesn't represent ALL the opposing views expressed on right-wing radio, liberals and conservatives agree on some controversial issues, where is the libertarian or socialist voice?
it was small because there isn't a market demand for far left wing radio
Not that you need 100x voices, but you need 2 sides of every controversial issue
why 2? why should the government decide which are the 2 correct sides of the controversial issue? Just imagine if this was tried to be implemented with newspapers, you whould be screaming about free speech
And NPR is such crap, they are like CNN, a good news source but full of right-wing crap, they have so many clowns who do part time work for Fox and show what right-of-center morons they are
You can't just put some liberals with moderates on the radio and go "oh they are just like sean hannity except left-wing"
NPR and CNN are right wing

You know sometimes I feel bad for you.
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:54 PM   #30
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
It'll get passed once hillary is president

If people to the left of Ann Coulter are unable to express their views all over the country, while she and her ilk can, its not free speech, its right-wing control of the air waves

Air America?

Who's fault if knowbody wants to listen? Instead we will force the issue via old Soviet Style control of content. Glad to know these people are being honest about their desires as dictators of the public trust.
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:56 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
it was small because there isn't a market demand for far left wing radio

why 2? why should the government decide which are the 2 correct sides of the controversial issue? Just imagine if this was tried to be implemented with newspapers, you whould be screaming about free speech

NPR and CNN are right wing

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Didn't say CNN/NPR was right wing

there wasn't a "market demand" for right wing radio, it took years to develop and very generous corporate advertising to help their agenda

there is no demand for much of right wing media, especially places like the washington times, but you have Rev. Moon who believes he is Jesus Christ (literally) and an extreme religious fanatic who funds these under-performing media operations so conservatives have a newspaper to check everyday with their right-wing views

Unforunately, liberals don't have crazy religious fanatics giving billions of dollars to radio companies to make it that both sides of america are heard

There are always two sides to each issue, pro and con...one can say whatever he wants, in support of a position, and then another can list all the reasons people could oppose that position...its that simple

Such a scary thought though, conservatives having their views challenged on the airwaves
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:59 PM   #32
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
NPR and CNN are right wing

You know sometimes I feel bad for you.

I read that and wonder if I ate a funny mushroom or something last night?

Did I tell you my NPR story? I tuned in just once because they were going to have a morning music program I wanted to hear. Well, it was the very day Saddam was captured in his Spider hole. They did about two minutes on the actual story and then went on for a whole two hours about how this does not matter, and how terrible the war was going, and had a number of guest to relay the point over and over again. Yeah, working for Bush!
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 04:59 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
Air America?

Who's fault if knowbody wants to listen? Instead we will force the issue via old Soviet Style control of content. Glad to know these people are being honest about their desires as dictators of the public trust.
Just because people don't have a crazy desire for 24 hours of liberal radio doesn't mean they don't want to hear a valid, uninterupted counter-point in their programming

I don't know how "dittoheads" do it...how you could live with yourself depending on one person to tell you what you should think...well I mean i guess it's likely they go to church so they're used to it
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:07 PM   #34
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post

Unforunately, liberals don't have crazy religious fanatics giving billions of dollars to radio companies to make it that both sides of america are heard

Uh Hem, Soros and co wasted plenty trying to prop up Air America. You just didn't have any audience!


This is as pathetic as what happened at C-Span. A long time ago far far away they had one phone line for viewer comment on the political talk shows. First come, first serve. Sounds Democratic eh? But NO! Not enough Liberal callers! So C-Span put in three lines. Democrat, Republican, and Independent. So if you have 100 Republicans and only 20 Dems and 12 Independents who actually watch and call it does not matter. We "affirmative action" you to the next call by going from one line to the next on each issue. Do I need to explain the character of people who think that is fairness? That this represent actual viewers?
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:10 PM   #35
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Just because people don't have a crazy desire for 24 hours of liberal radio doesn't mean they don't want to hear a valid, uninterupted counter-point in their programming

I don't know how "dittoheads" do it...how you could live with yourself depending on one person to tell you what you should think...well I mean i guess it's likely they go to church so they're used to it

I don't know what people want? I don't listen to talk radio. But I know strong arm tactics when I see it. Go market "valid" views like everybody else....
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:11 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by RMNIXON View Post
I read that and wonder if I ate a funny mushroom or something last night?

Did I tell you my NPR story? I tuned in just once because they were going to have a morning music program I wanted to hear. Well, it was the very day Saddam was captured in his Spider hole. They did about two minutes on the actual story and then went on for a whole two hours about how this does not matter, and how terrible the war was going, and had a number of guest to relay the point over and over again. Yeah, working for Bush!
NPR did two hours of opinion on a 2 minute story?

And you listened to people repeat themselves over and over again for 2 hours?

Funny I think I heard Hannity talking about it was the turning point

One program had guests saying it didn't matter and the war took a dramatic turn for the better and the insurgency took a dramatic hit it would never recover some...

another said it wasn't a big deal to the insurgency

who was right again?
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:13 PM   #37
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Didn't say CNN/NPR was right wing

there wasn't a "market demand" for right wing radio, it took years to develop and very generous corporate advertising to help their agenda
yes there was a demand for it, that is how rush limbaugh spread across the country.
there is no demand for much of right wing media, especially places like the washington times, but you have Rev. Moon who believes he is Jesus Christ (literally) and an extreme religious fanatic who funds these under-performing media operations so conservatives have a newspaper to check everyday with their right-wing views
you just proved my point for me thnkz. The government should not get into regulation of media.
Unforunately, liberals don't have crazy religious fanatics giving billions of dollars to radio companies to make it that both sides of america are heard
george soros
There are always two sides to each issue, pro and con...one can say whatever he wants, in support of a position, and then another can list all the reasons people could oppose that position...its that simple
I think there are more than two sides to every issue. So should the Green Party, Working Families and Libertarians all get equal air time as the current 2 point of view system.
Such a scary thought though, conservatives having their views challenged on the airwaves
they do everyday
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:17 PM   #38
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
NPR did two hours of opinion on a 2 minute story?

And you listened to people repeat themselves over and over again for 2 hours?

It was slow torture. I had hoped they would air the program as scheduled, but they were too worked up trying to combat the bad........ I mean good news.
 
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:57 PM   #39
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george soros doesn't give billions to left wing radio, and demand was not immediate for right wing radio...anything else?
 
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