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Old 02-05-2007, 06:25 PM   #41
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He is.

Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the only one trying to make people open up their eyes and see the truth. But few listen, despite the fact that I was the first Canadian Ph.D. in Climatology and I have an extensive background in climatology, especially the reconstruction of past climates and the impact of climate change on human history and the human condition. Few listen, even though I have a Ph.D, (Doctor of Science) from the University of London, England and that for 32 years I was a Professor of Climatology at the University of Winnipeg. For some reason (actually for many), the World is not listening. Here is why.

Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts?

The guy makes a few valid points I like, but does not really provide any proof of his assertions.

It is good that he questions the "prevailing wisdom", it is also good to re-evaluation assumptions.

What I don't like is him saying "they are wrong because they made assumptions" without providing any evidence that they are wrong. There is science that says global warming being caused by humans is plausible - even likely. If someone wants to challenge that, fine but they will need to show exactly where the science is wrong.
 
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:41 PM   #42
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Originally Posted by Kytro View Post
The guy makes a few valid points I like, but does not really provide any proof of his assertions.

It is good that he questions the "prevailing wisdom", it is also good to re-evaluation assumptions.

What I don't like is him saying "they are wrong because they made assumptions" without providing any evidence that they are wrong. There is science that says global warming being caused by humans is plausible - even likely. If someone wants to challenge that, fine but they will need to show exactly where the science is wrong.
Interestingly enough he doesn't say global warming doesn't exist, he says it doesn't exist as we think we know it. What does that mean? It means what he said in the article....that politicians took hold of an issue and now they're running with it, and since they have the audience and they make the policies they're being listened to like it's fact. Given what we know it's not fact. It may be true, sure, but it may not be. That's what that article says.
 
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Old 02-05-2007, 09:06 PM   #43
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
Interestingly enough he doesn't say global warming doesn't exist, he says it doesn't exist as we think we know it. What does that mean? It means what he said in the article....that politicians took hold of an issue and now they're running with it, and since they have the audience and they make the policies they're being listened to like it's fact. Given what we know it's not fact. It may be true, sure, but it may not be. That's what that article says.
Politicians always run will with whatever they need to in order to manipulate people. That is the nature of politics.

No it's not fact but there is a very good possibility that what people are doing is messing with the climate and that doing so can have some very negative consequences. Science does not really need a consensus to work or be right, the only thing a consensus does is allow for decision making.

There are a large number of scientists directly involved in climate research that say the data indicates that man is responsible for the part of the the current warming trend and that trend has consequences. There would have to be some very compelling evidence contradicting this to dismiss this viewpoint.
 
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