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Old 02-06-2007, 02:47 AM   #1
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Friendly fire video from Iraq *link to vid from page*

The Sun Online - News: Joy at direct hit turns to horror


It's really a different light to see things, cockpit video for 15 minutes
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:50 AM   #2
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A lot of same-side killings happened in Desert Storm as well, dozens were mistakenly murdered by friendly fire from A-10 Warthogs.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:08 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Nonphixion View Post
A lot of same-side killings happened in Desert Storm as well, dozens were mistakenly murdered by friendly fire from A-10 Warthogs.
Is 'murdered' the right word to use ?.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:29 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by m-b View Post
Is 'murdered' the right word to use ?.
no
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:37 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by 7960 View Post
no
I didn't think so.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:35 PM   #6
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What I want to know is why was this was classified?
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:39 PM   #7
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What I want to know is why was this was classified?
there are plenty of reasons why, Operation Security is the most important
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:41 PM   #8
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there are plenty of reasons why, Operation Security is the most important
Obviously there reasons for classification, I was simply wondering what could on that video needed to remain classified. Considering this was leaked.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:53 PM   #9
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Obviously there reasons for classification, I was simply wondering what could on that video needed to remain classified. Considering this was leaked.
The number one reason should be out of respect for the families in my opinion.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:58 PM   #10
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The number one reason should be out of respect for the families in my opinion.
Respect for whose families?

Classification should not be used to censor things in that way anyway.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 05:59 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Kytro View Post
What I want to know is why was this was classified?
are you sure that is the entire video, and that's not just a piece of a larger video?

I don't know, but it may be that the entire video is classified and just that part was declassified.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 06:00 PM   #12
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are you sure that is the entire video, and that's not just a piece of a larger video?

I don't know, but it may be that the entire video is classified and just that part was declassified.

I am not too sure, all I heard was it was leaked on the radio this morning
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:02 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by Kytro View Post
Obviously there reasons for classification, I was simply wondering what could on that video needed to remain classified. Considering this was leaked.
all radio transmissions are considered classified
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:12 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by kinggovernor View Post
all radio transmissions are considered classified
Sounds like a reasonable precaution, I have no issue with that.

However if someone wants to get hold of the information then one would expect that the classification be reviewed to determine if it is still required.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:23 PM   #15
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Sucks for that pilot.

And its classified because of the families. The DoD usually doesn't release video of American soldiers being killed, for family privacy reasons..
 
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If i were an enemy of the US, id know to take aerophotos of what the top of their vehicles look like and use those kind of color strips on all vehicles to avoid getting shot

however i am sure most countries already knew about the orange stripes, especially russia/china
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:44 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by JSmythe View Post
Sucks for that pilot.

And its classified because of the families. The DoD usually doesn't release video of American soldiers being killed, for family privacy reasons..
I thought the family (of the dead) wanted the video released
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:54 PM   #18
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If i were an enemy of the US, id know to take aerophotos of what the top of their vehicles look like and use those kind of color strips on all vehicles to avoid getting shot

however i am sure most countries already knew about the orange stripes, especially russia/china

one reason to keep this classified
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 08:56 PM   #19
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Originally Posted by Kytro View Post
I thought the family (of the dead) wanted the video released

In the case of friendly fire it can also be the privacy of the ones who did the killing. I didn't actually read the article till you said that, and seeing how it was American killing British troops, the fact it involved two massive, lumbering bureaucracies probably had something to do with it.
 
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:00 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by JSmythe View Post
In the case of friendly fire it can also be the privacy of the ones who did the killing. I didn't actually read the article till you said that, and seeing how it was American killing British troops, the fact it involved two massive, lumbering bureaucracies probably had something to do with it.
Using classification for political purposes FTL
 
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