Please for the love of God, do not bring Tim Ball into this debate as a source. EVER. He is known to find for the highest bidder. He is shunned by most of the community. I'm not even fully into a met program and I've already heard enough by him ...
02-06-2007, 11:37 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat  Moderate Northern VA 
| Please for the love of God, do not bring Tim Ball into this debate as a source. EVER. He is known to find for the highest bidder. He is shunned by most of the community. I'm not even fully into a met program and I've already heard enough by him and why he's nowhere near credible. | ||||
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02-06-2007, 11:42 PM
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| Banned - Self Imposed  Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Please, think tank links? You realize, if any of those guys said global warming was caused by humans, they'd be fired? It's not their job to find the truth, and thats not me just guessing (like you guys do) its fact, they are paid to find certain conclusions The guys who wrote the IPCC weren't getting fired when they started lowering their projections, professors with tenure all over the country aren't in danger of losing their jobs if they speak out on the "fraud" of man made global warming | ||||
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02-06-2007, 11:52 PM
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| Originally Posted by Thorgrim 
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02-07-2007, 12:16 AM
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| Banned - Self Imposed Progressive Philadelphia, PA
| Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 Right after finish all these creationist papers, fascinating stuff, did you know the world is actually only a few thousand years old?
How about this, I'll read cato's "work" on global warming critism right after you finish reading their "work" on the ozone layer and you explain to me how completely wrong they were, but how cool it was that they got 10 pages out of it | ||||
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02-07-2007, 02:23 AM
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| Originally Posted by RMNIXON The IPCC was established to look into issues surrounding climate change caused by people, that in no way mean the work they do is somehow wrong.
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02-07-2007, 04:21 AM
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| tyop speicalist Religion Moderator  Capitalist California
| The sun emits high-energy particles and magnetic fields in the form of this little thing called the Solar Wind. The solar wind interacts with the earth's magnetic field, amplying its ability to block cosmic radiation. As I'm sure you know, cosmic radiation is the primary source of ionization in the troposphere. This ionization affects the formation of condensation nuclei required for low altitude marine clouds. Cliffs High solar activity leads to More solar wind leads to Stronger blocking effect of Earth's magnetic field leads to Fewer cosmic rays leads to Less ionization leads to Fewer, shorter lived marine clouds leads to Global Warming And guess what, solar activity has been at its highest in 600 years.  Cosmic radiation correlated with cloud cover 
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02-07-2007, 04:31 AM
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| tyop speicalist Religion Moderator Capitalist California
| BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Mars 'more active than suspected' USATODAY.com - New storm on Jupiter hints at climate change Global Warming Detected on Triton SPACE.com -- Global Warming on Pluto Puzzles Scientists Next thing you know, you're going to start trying to convince me that there's no universal warming either! Mars has some ice melting, and Jupiter's temperature is reaching a new high ("new" since we started checkin' it out). And I'll bet you think that has nothing to do with the Industrial Revolution, huh? Is it just a coincidence that Mars and Jupiter are getting hotter less than a 100 years after the Industrial Revolution? No! It isn't! Humans are heating up the universe, and you're a dullard if you don't recognize that!  | ||||
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02-07-2007, 05:28 AM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat Moderate Northern VA
| Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby
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02-07-2007, 06:07 AM
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| Baka Idealist Adelaide, Australia
| The latest report already accounts for the effects of the sun. It is not suffiacnt to explain the current level of warming. Cliffs: Warming > than all known explanations would predict | ||||
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02-07-2007, 11:26 AM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator  Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby It's just a coincidence that we started dumping billions of tons of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere when the warming began.
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02-07-2007, 11:33 AM
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| Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby +1 for scientific debate
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02-07-2007, 11:34 AM
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| Bokonist Independent Kansas City
| Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby -1 for scientific debate
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02-07-2007, 11:35 AM
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| ..... your a worthless poster  Realist
| Originally Posted by nbiggershaft
 evidence that other planets are warming, too, doesn't apply? somehow the earth is immune from whatever is warming mars? | ||||
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02-07-2007, 11:41 AM
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| Bokonist Independent Kansas City
| Originally Posted by 7960 He attempted to explain that in his previous post. This one about how 'humans must be warming the universe lolz' is just flaming. There are legitamite studies being done on the effects of greenhouse gasses on the climate as well as other real factors. To discredit them all with a simple, well 'it's just circumstancial' is not constructive. (it's essentially guilty of exactly what he is trying to make fun of)
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02-07-2007, 02:10 PM
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| tyop speicalist Religion Moderator Capitalist California
| Originally Posted by Scrumtralecent When the WARMING began? Au contraire! Warming occured much, much later.
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02-07-2007, 02:26 PM
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| tyop speicalist Religion Moderator Capitalist California
| And what about the Bering Straight? How did that get flooded? I'll tell you: Global Warming. That's right. You might think that our fall from grace was the Industrial Revolution, but actually we were ruining the global climate long before that. The American Indians crossed the Bering Straight and worked their way into what is today's United States. There were a few stragglers along the way, and we call them Eskimos. The Eskimos had the right idea, and they used ice bricks and lots of fur to keep warm. What about the Indians? Well, the Indians used fire. That's right, fire! They used fire to cook their food. They used fire to keep warm. They used fire for their crazy rituals. And perhaps the worst, they used SMOKE signals to communicate. You read that correctly, they actually created fires for the sole purpose of having a bunch of polluting smoke go up in the air! It's no puzzle as to why the Bering Straight doesn't exist today. The god damn Indians heated up the earth by releasing all sorts of CO2 into the atmosphere. It's a good thing we came over here with our guns to stop them. | ||||
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02-07-2007, 02:26 PM
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| I'm your huckleberry!  Independent Ohio
| Originally Posted by RMNIXON Did you write that or is that a quote? I think it is very well said and agree wholeheatedly, which is odd for me to agree with you.
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02-07-2007, 04:16 PM
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| helluo librorum The Lab Moderator Humanist Chicago Suburbs
| Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby Excuse me. I should have said "accelerated climate change".
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02-07-2007, 04:56 PM
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| Audaces fortuna iuvat Moderate Northern VA
| Originally Posted by Dumpy Dooby by the way, trying to connect the climate of other uninhabitable planets to that of the earth is just ignorant.
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