Iran: We supplied Zelzal-2 to Hizbullah

ethyl · 08-05-2006, 01:25 AM

Would this be enough justification for Israel to bomb a few Iranian bases?
Of course, I'm waiting for more sources before I believe this.

In the meantime:

Iran: We supplied Zelzal-2 to Hizbullah | Jerusalem Post

Iran admitted for the first time on Friday that it did indeed supply long-range Zelzal-2 missiles to Hizbullah.

Secretary-general of the "Intifada conference" Mohtashami Pur told an Iranian newspaper that Iran transferred the missiles so that they could be used to defend Lebanon, Channel 1 reported.

The extent of Iran's intimate involvement in Hizbullah attacks is starting to emerge.

According to the defense establishment, the reason Hizbullah has not fired long-range Iranian-made Fajr missiles at Israel is due to Teheran's opposition. Israel now understands that without direct orders from the ayatollahs, Hizbullah is not allowed to use Iranian missiles in attacks against Israel.

The IDF also believes that it seriously damaged the long-range rocket array in the first night of air strikes almost three weeks ago and impaired Hizbullah's ability to fire the rockets.

The longer-range Zelzal missiles, manufactured by Iran and capable of reaching Tel Aviv, have also not been fired at Israel, and the IDF believes this is because it destroyed almost two-thirds of these in the Hizbullah arsenal.

And does anyone believe this is the same as the US supplying Israel?

Concept · 08-05-2006, 01:38 AM

The last thing Israel may want to do is piss Tehran off now that they have confirmation that they have the capacity to hit Tel Aviv.

Unless the Jews have big balls and try to get those rockets destroyed.

Donkey® · 08-05-2006, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by ethyl

Would this be enough justification for Israel to bomb a few Iranian bases?
Of course, I'm waiting for more sources before I believe this. In the meantime:

Iran: We supplied Zelzal-2 to Hizbullah | Jerusalem Post

And does anyone believe this is the same as the US supplying Israel?

Yes. People are allowed to supply whomever they choose.

Stylerod · 08-05-2006, 01:53 AM

Originally Posted by ethyl

Would this be enough justification for Israel to bomb a few Iranian bases?
Of course, I'm waiting for more sources before I believe this. In the meantime:

Iran: We supplied Zelzal-2 to Hizbullah | Jerusalem Post

And does anyone believe this is the same as the US supplying Israel?

Sure. But if those missiles are used to attack Tel Aviv then Iran better get ready for payback.

Reading that article it seems they already know this and that is why they told the Hezzys to not use them.

ethyl · 08-05-2006, 01:54 AM

Originally Posted by Donkey®

Yes. People are allowed to supply whomever they choose.

Iran is certainly allowed to do whatever they want if nobody steps up to stop them. So would Israel be justified in stopping them?

Concept · 08-05-2006, 01:56 AM

Stopping Iran?

ethyl · 08-05-2006, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Concept

Stopping Iran?

fixed

JaJae · 08-05-2006, 02:05 AM

Iran is walking up the wrong tree with Israel...

Concept · 08-05-2006, 02:06 AM

Coolness.

They need to trust Mossad on this one, in my opinion. Intelligence needs to be collected as to the amount of missiles Iran is providing Israel.

OR they can wait to see if Tel Aviv gets blown to shit.

But until then, I don't think so.

motivez · 08-05-2006, 04:58 AM

There's no difference morally between the US supplying arms to regimes we agree with and wish to support and Iran doing the same thing.

Kytro · 08-05-2006, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by motivez

There's no difference morally between the US supplying arms to regimes we agree with and wish to support and Iran doing the same thing.

Execpt the US is "right" and everyone else who opposes them is "wrong".

Whichi why the US is allowed nukes, but Iran is not

motivez · 08-05-2006, 06:30 AM

We're right from our point of view, they're right from their point of view.

Morally, however, it's exactly the same. Weapons are being provided that will be used offensively or defensively (depending on your view of the conflict), some will kill civilians, etc.

Diesel66 · 08-05-2006, 11:04 AM

Iran and Syria have been arming those groups for decades

Stylerod · 08-05-2006, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Kytro

Execpt the US is "right" and everyone else who opposes them is "wrong".

Not at all. We don't supply people arms without thinking there might be some consiquences, and neither should Iran.

Originally Posted by Kytro

Whichi why the US is allowed nukes, but Iran is not

We don't make statements that countries should be wiped off the earth

SpicyMcVoodoo · 08-05-2006, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by Stylerod

But if those missiles are used to attack Tel Aviv then Iran better get ready for payback.

Negro, please. Israel would take a severe beating if it went against Iran, regardless of who the ultimate winner is. I think Israel would have to be pushed very, very far to attack Iran in any way.

Nonphixion · 08-05-2006, 09:47 PM

Zelzal 2 Rocket has a range of 200km, and can carry 600kg of explosives, very much capable of striking Tel Aviv. - Zelzal-2

Qassam and Katyusha History; Aerospaceweb.org | Ask Us - Katyusha & Qassam Rockets

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Here's something you never heard on the news;

Perhaps even more troubling is the appearance of advanced missile technology in the region. On 14 July 2006, the missile corvette Hanit of the Israeli Navy was enforcing a blockade along the Lebanese coast when the vessel was struck by a C-802 anti-ship missile. Unlike the unguided Katyusha rockets, the C-802 is far more sophisticated and includes an inertial and active-radar guidance system. The C-802 is an export version of the Chinese Yingji-82 missile and has been sold to Iran. Iran has reportedly developed its own copy of the Chinese missile and may have supplied these weapons to Hezbollah, though the Iranian government denies the accusation. Two of the advanced missiles were fired at the Israeli boat and one struck the vessel near its stern killing four sailors. The second apparently impacted an Egyptian freighter, though some reports suggest it was hit by a rocket instead. The freighter was sunk in the attack but the crewmen managed to escape and were rescued by other ships in the area.

They killed 4 soldiers on Israel's most advanced Command Vessel

Stylerod · 08-06-2006, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by SpicyMcVoodoo

Negro, please. Israel would take a severe beating if it went against Iran, regardless of who the ultimate winner is. I think Israel would have to be pushed very, very far to attack Iran in any way.

Iran doesn't have a very good army or air force. Israel would wipe the snot out of them.

motivez · 08-06-2006, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by Nonphixion

They killed 4 soldiers on Israel's most advanced Command Vessel

Don't forget though, they didn't have their defensive systems on because they didn't believe Hezbollah was capable of such an attack.

Concept · 08-06-2006, 01:01 AM

Israel has been fighting an enemy, as of now, with limited military technology. I don't think Israel can begin another war with another enemy with more potent technology.

Iranian troops would be mobilized to support Hezbollah in Lebanon. I highly doubt Israel could support such a war, seeing as they're having enough too much fun with Hezbollah already.

I would think Israel can stand up to both Iran and Hezbollah if they could have dispatched of Hezbollah more quickly, but this has not happened, and Hezbollah is still very formidable.

Stylerod · 08-06-2006, 01:04 AM

Originally Posted by Concept

Israel has been fighting an enemy, as of now, with limited military technology. I don't think Israel can begin another war with another enemy with more potent technology.

Iranian troops would be mobilized to support Hezbollah in Lebanon. I highly doubt Israel could support such a war, seeing as they're having enough too much fun with Hezbollah already.

I would think Israel can stand up to both Iran and Hezbollah if they could have dispatched of Hezbollah more quickly, but this has not happened, and Hezbollah is still very formidable.

Israel defeated Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, and Syria at the same time. I think they could handle Iran and the Hezzys