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Old 07-22-2006, 10:11 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
this is an example of why i like carrying guns:

8 Grocery Employees Stabbed in Tennessee



he probably could have even shot the guy (he needed to) and not had to fight the law.
what if the knife-weilding grocer had instead had a CCW, they are easy to get in TN, then he would have shot 8 people before maybe...maybe...someone shot him
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:36 AM   #42
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
what if the knife-weilding grocer had instead had a CCW, they are easy to get in TN, then he would have shot 8 people before maybe...maybe...someone shot him
what if?
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:43 AM   #43
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Originally Posted by ballz2wallz
what if?
yeah, its not really a gun control point

its just a "CCW weren't crafted by God himself" point

not that you implied that
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:50 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
Home invasion is the biggest bunch of BS ever, its statistically insignificant
In the US. Why ? Because the criminals are afraid of breaking into a home when the owner is there.

Originally Posted by Thorgrim
what if the knife-weilding grocer had instead had a CCW, they are easy to get in TN, then he would have shot 8 people before maybe...maybe...someone shot him
He is fine with stabbing 8 people, do you really think he is going to care about the law about carrying his gun to work without a permit ?

Originally Posted by motivez
Yeah, I don't see it as black and white either. I would consider myself pro-gun on a great many points, but I am kind of on the fence about certain weaponry like semi/automatic machine guns, "cop killer bullets", etc...
May I ask why you are on the fence about weapons almost never used in crime ? Especially when those weapons represent the real reason for the 2nd Admendment (military weapons)? And cop killer bullets is just political bsing. Any powerful cartridge will go through a vest. Why buy really expensive AP ammo to get the same effect ?
 
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Old 07-22-2006, 11:53 AM   #45
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Diesel I have no big objections to anything you said
 
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Old 12-02-2007, 01:21 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim
"As someone who worked in the DA's office, its a terrible thing to say, but almost all of those people had it coming to them one way or another, meaning they could have easily gotten a restraining order"

Originally Posted by TankRizzo
"As far as people I knew....well, lets see, I have one childhood friend who's currently serving a life sentence for murder (drove up and shot someone in the face with a shotgun...gang related I guess..."

Tank, it seems the guy your friend shot had it coming. He should have had a restraining order to protect himself with. I think you just hold them up in front of you and it stops the bullets.

The Kevlar restraining order, where can I get one. Interesting statement from someone working for a DA.
 
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:36 AM   #47
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
As someone who worked in the DA's office, its a terrible thing to say, but almost all of those people had it coming to them one way or another, meaning they could have easily gotten a restraining order or protected themselves before an incident, or any number of things, sometimes they even instigated with a known felon
You do realize that a protection order is a piece of paper and not a bodyguard? If someone wants to hurt/kill you do you honetsly think they give a shit about a piece of paper? As for you not being attacked in the subway, you're fortunate. Others have not been so lucky.
 
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Old 12-02-2007, 02:43 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post
Some of us who lived in the real ghetto find it offensive that people in gated communities that haven't had robberies in years are loaded up for a small regiment because they are worried that there are roaving bands of minorites out for a "home invasion"

Home invasion is the biggest bunch of BS ever, its statistically insignificant
Statistically insignificant? Are you serious? Tell that to a victims family. You find it offensive that people want to exercise their freedoms and own a gun which may or may not be used in self defense someday? Why are you so angry and anti liberty?
 
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:50 AM   #49
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Originally Posted by Thorgrim View Post

As someone who worked in the DA's office, its a terrible thing to say, but almost all of those people had it coming to them one way or another, meaning they could have easily gotten a restraining order or protected themselves before an incident, or any number of things, sometimes they even instigated with a known felon

You've got to be joking. A piece of paper is supposed to protect me against a random break in in the middle of the night
 
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:53 AM   #50
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It's sad that people feel they need to carry a gun to protect themselves. Truly, and I say this not to call people weak, I say this out of contempt for the state of America and the world for people to feel the need to arm themselves at all times for fear of getting ganked.
Since the beginning of time, it has been the duty of man to protect himself and his family. I feel sorry for those who would quickly relinquish this basic human right to a governing authority who honestly doesn't care if you are dead or alive by the time they show up.
 
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Old 12-03-2007, 08:54 AM   #51
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I'd like to point out this thread is from 2 days after the site went live.
 
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